Man-made climate change is done for. Dead.

[CookMySock]

I reckon the "emails" are fake.

Steve

[Jantar]

I reckon the "emails" are fake.

Steve

You can reckon they are fake if you wish, but the authors have already confirmed publicly that they are genuine.

[James Deuce]

http://www.nzcpr.com/guest173.

[MisterD]

I just love it when my inate cynicism turns out to be so well justified...

Scientific consensus = we have to find this result or our funding dries up.

[pzkpfw]

http://www.nzcpr.com/guest173.

That gets me a 404.

[Usarka]

I just love it when my inate cynicism turns out to be so well justified...

My inate cynicism also makes it hard to trust people who hire hackers to get dirt on people.

[mashman]

In the 70's we were heading for an ice age.

The oceans rise and fall in time. Its natural. How about Gilgamesh and the ancient floods? Cities found on the ocean floor....

Conspiracy theory:
Climate change is a smoke screen for avoiding valid environmental concerns....
'Get them arguing without a chance of proving one way or another, tax the fuckers, and avoid attention to real issues like urban air quality, total pollutant exposure, deforestation, siltification of waterways, acrylamide, dumbing down, addiction, mind control, feminisation, outlaw bikers....

On order to keep the population paying?

[MisterD]

My inate cynicism also makes it hard to trust people who hire hackers to get dirt on people.

In which I also agree with you but....

You can reckon they are fake if you wish, but the authors have already confirmed publicly that they are genuine.

[bogan]

Try using AGW as a justification for the Emissions Trading Scheme. Imagine it costing you $3000 a year through taxes and increased costs. I'm very worried about where this is all going.

Get people to stop polluting? CO2 is not a pollutant as such. We need to stop polluting with harmful chemicals, yes?

White Lie? Hardly. Ingenious scheme to make huge amounts of money trading on the non-production of a commodity? Most likely.

yeh, true, I had forgotten bout the ulterior motives and schemes etc.

[scissorhands]

On order to keep the population paying?

To divide people into believers and non believers. Sort of like the 2 party system. Red blue, whitey blackie, uncle sam terrorism, boy girl battle of the sexes.

Caesar says: get them fighting amongst themselves. Divide and conquer

Climate change is real, but not so important that other concerns should not make public perception, and not a one sided, its all us doing it, feel guilty mantra. Space, time, solar activity, volcanic activity AND manmade

[mashman]

To divide people into believers and non believers. Sort of like the 2 party system. Red blue, whitey blackie, uncle sam terrorism, boy girl battle of the sexes.

Caesar says: get them fighting amongst themselves. Divide and conquer

Climate change is real, but not so important that other concerns should not make public perception, and not a one sided, its all us doing it, feel guilty mantra. Space, time, solar activity, volcanic activity AND manmade

Well, that's one way to look at it I suppose

[avgas]

Fuck!
there goes my retirement fund.
What the fuck am I going to do with 20ha of crappy kiwifruit now. Fucken stuff doesn't even sell well enough to make money

[scissorhands]

Well, that's one way to look at it I suppose

No one worries about loss of topsoil into the sea. Whats going to happen when its all gone....

This argument should be as strong as the climate change one. Crashing global sperm counts and feminisation....what will that mean??

A conditioning vehicle wizzed by and you jumped on it. Save The World from the Machines!!

[Quasievil]

Get people to stop polluting? CO2 is not a pollutant as such. We need to stop polluting with harmful chemicals, yes?

Thats dum, most c02 emmisions come from the enviroment 1.9 % come from man.
C02 levels have been 4 times higher in history with lower temperatures.

Its a con, a swindle and a load of crap that has become the new age religion for the blind and stupid

[Lias]

Personally I think climate change is bullshit, but even if it IS real I dont give a shit.

I want to see us concrete the entire fucking planet, like Coruscant in starwars :-)