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    Thumbs down 97 GSX-R11 Yoshi Ltd Edition

    I'm currently working on a 97 GSX-R11 Yoshi Ltd Edition (apparently confirmed genuine for the owner by Suzuki NZ) which had been brought in from the states

    It'd been neglected with lack of maintenance etc, so I'm going right through it getting things sorted.

    Just about to strip & rebuild the carbs etc.
    got new cables to fit and a K&N waiting to be put into place as well. It's running a RS-3 pipe too.

    I thought the 11s of this era ran 38mm or 40mm carbs and this appears to be running 36mm units (Mikuni #46EC K662) I measured the throats with verniers

    Anyone know the settings for the air mix screws & float heights etc?
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    Not that it helps but my understanding of the model is quite different.

    The "Yoshimura Special Edition" 1100s were actually a bunch of USA market bikes, bought by Suzuki NZ for a song, then a pipe fited to make em sound good and shiny Yoshimura stickers added to the fairings. This was all done to remove your attention from the fact they were horrible California market bikes (hence the teeny carbs) that ran like crap and nowhere near the spec of a New Zealand market bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Not that it helps but my understanding of the model is quite different.

    The "Yoshimura Special Edition" 1100s were actually a bunch of USA market bikes, bought by Suzuki NZ for a song, then a pipe fited to make em sound good and shiny Yoshimura stickers added to the fairings. This was all done to remove your attention from the fact they were horrible California market bikes (hence the teeny carbs) that ran like crap and nowhere near the spec of a New Zealand market bike.
    i had a 96 gsxr1100wt a few years ago.

    and yeah tho yoshi edition ones where ones with a extra sticker and some yoshi exhaust pipes on them, and being from cali it it has black canser on the side tail fairing, for emissions. smaller carbs etc.

    See if you can find some bigger carbs, could be more hassel, plenty of guys state side got plenty of hp out of there bikes with the 36mm carbs

    service manual can be found here -> http://www.carlsalter.com/download.a...08046112100102

    also look and see if this has been done (Look at the leads coming out of your neutral-sensor. If you have one wire on the neutral-sensor, then you do not have a "wheelie wire". If you have two leads, then one controls the neutral-light, and the other controls the signal to tell the ECU to retard the ignition in 1st-gear. If you are painstaking about it, you can use a scribe or icepick kinda tool and remove one of the connectors from the plastic terminal-block that both wires go into - if the one you remove renders your neutral-light ineffective, then you got the wrong one and need to put it back and remove the other one.

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    Sounds like you have a mission on your hands. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Not that it helps but my understanding of the model is quite different.

    The "Yoshimura Special Edition" 1100s were actually a bunch of USA market bikes, bought by Suzuki NZ for a song, then a pipe fited to make em sound good and shiny Yoshimura stickers added to the fairings. This was all done to remove your attention from the fact they were horrible California market bikes (hence the teeny carbs) that ran like crap and nowhere near the spec of a New Zealand market bike.
    When it arrived here (my place) we gave it a run up the road & yeah the performance wasn't anything flash, though it was fluffing & farting below 4k and would intermittantly drop a cylinder at idle.
    haven't run it since but put a new set of plugs in removed the old air filter which was caked in crap (looked like it'd never been out of the bike )

    The carbs are a bit suss as as far as I'm aware California spec bikes all have the airmix screw housings capped.... these aren't capped and going by the oxidising in the housings have never been capped.

    I did a quick search around the web & found a few places with verying specs on the carbs...... some saying 38s & some saying 40s. That's what threw me off after having a measure-up to find 36s.

    Thought I'd throw the question out here anyhow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun View Post
    and yeah tho yoshi edition ones where ones with a extra sticker and some yoshi exhaust pipes on them, and being from cali it it has black canser on the side tail fairing, for emissions. smaller carbs etc.
    No canister or plumbing associated with emissions units on the bike or engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun View Post
    See if you can find some bigger carbs, could be more hassel, plenty of guys state side got plenty of hp out of there bikes with the 36mm carbs .
    Got a set of kitted 36s off my ZXR & a set of kitted 38s but he isn't getting either of them



    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun View Post
    also look and see if this has been done (Look at the leads coming out of your neutral-sensor. If you have one wire on the neutral-sensor, then you do not have a "wheelie wire". If you have two leads, then one controls the neutral-light, and the other controls the signal to tell the ECU to retard the ignition in 1st-gear. If you are painstaking about it, you can use a scribe or icepick kinda tool and remove one of the connectors from the plastic terminal-block that both wires go into - if the one you remove renders your neutral-light ineffective, then you got the wrong one and need to put it back and remove the other one.
    it's got a 2pin plug (green/black wire & red/black wire) the red/black has been cut & sealed

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    All sorted and running like a swiss clock

    Once a couple of small items are taken care of and some of the bodywork is spruced up it'll be a pretty good ride.

    should of held on to it for a couple more days & swapped the cams over into the GS
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    All sorted and running like a swiss clock

    Once a couple of small items are taken care of and some of the bodywork is spruced up it'll be a pretty good ride.

    should of held on to it for a couple more days & swapped the cams over into the GS
    yeah i liked my one was a good big touring bike, they are very rapid, but stable since they got a bit of weight on them, nice big tanks to.

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    The "Yoshimura Ltd Edition" bikes were 49 state examples.
    The WW models that SNZ brought in were California examples.
    Both had 36mm carbs (which when set up properly, gave more low end and midrange power than 40mm ones)
    I bought a brand new WW in 1999. I replaced the camshafts with full power model ones, got a dynojet kit fitted, and replaced the igniter box with a -40 one (full power model). Removed the canister and associated plumbing, too.
    The bike went VERY well after the mods


    Edit: The California bikes have air injection in to the exhaust ports and the carbon canister in the tail section that is plumbed to the fuel tank to catch vapor. The 49 state US bikes don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun View Post
    i had a 96 gsxr1100wt a few years ago.

    and yeah tho yoshi edition ones where ones with a extra sticker and some yoshi exhaust pipes on them, and being from cali it it has black canser on the side tail fairing, for emissions. smaller carbs etc.

    See if you can find some bigger carbs, could be more hassel, plenty of guys state side got plenty of hp out of there bikes with the 36mm carbs

    service manual can be found here -> http://www.carlsalter.com/download.a...08046112100102

    also look and see if this has been done (Look at the leads coming out of your neutral-sensor. If you have one wire on the neutral-sensor, then you do not have a "wheelie wire". If you have two leads, then one controls the neutral-light, and the other controls the signal to tell the ECU to retard the ignition in 1st-gear. If you are painstaking about it, you can use a scribe or icepick kinda tool and remove one of the connectors from the plastic terminal-block that both wires go into - if the one you remove renders your neutral-light ineffective, then you got the wrong one and need to put it back and remove the other one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    The "Yoshimura Ltd Edition" bikes were 49 state examples.
    The WW models that SNZ brought in were California examples.
    Both had 36mm carbs (which when set up properly, gave more low end and midrange power than 40mm ones)
    I bought a brand new WW in 1999. I replaced the camshafts with full power model ones, got a dynojet kit fitted, and replaced the igniter box with a -40 one (full power model). Removed the canister and associated plumbing, too.
    The bike went VERY well after the mods


    Edit: The California bikes have air injection in to the exhaust ports and the carbon canister in the tail section that is plumbed to the fuel tank to catch vapor. The 49 state US bikes don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    I propose a little get together between you two for a GSXR Knowledge Face-off. I thought I was the biggest GSXR geek before meeting you pair of know-it-alls
    well we both be catching up at trackday next monday at minefield, what do you know about gsxr anyway, all you knew how to do was crash them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    The "Yoshimura Ltd Edition" bikes were 49 state examples.
    The WW models that SNZ brought in were California examples.
    Both had 36mm carbs (which when set up properly, gave more low end and midrange power than 40mm ones)
    I bought a brand new WW in 1999. I replaced the camshafts with full power model ones, got a dynojet kit fitted, and replaced the igniter box with a -40 one (full power model). Removed the canister and associated plumbing, too.
    The bike went VERY well after the mods


    Edit: The California bikes have air injection in to the exhaust ports and the carbon canister in the tail section that is plumbed to the fuel tank to catch vapor. The 49 state US bikes don't
    looking thru the gsxr1100w (be it a 93 service manual in pdf) over the weekends, i noticed it said 36mm carbs, nothing about 40's

    i am know they 96 one i had had 40mm, but my old one was pretty fast, so maybe a previous owner had put 40's since i know mine had plenty of HP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun View Post
    well we both be catching up at trackday next monday at minefield, what do you know about gsxr anyway, all you knew how to do was crash them.
    Alright Mr GSXR Nerd, here's one for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    I propose a little get together between you two for a GSXR Knowledge Face-off. I thought I was the biggest GSXR geek before meeting you pair of know-it-alls
    Unlike me, I can't think of a witty reply.
    Get fucked will have to suffice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    I find it ironic that the incredibly rude personal comments about Les were made by someone bearing an astonishing resemblance to a Monica Lewinsky dress accessory.

    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    All was good until I realised that having 105kg of man sliding into my rear was a tad uncomfortable after a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Alright Mr GSXR Nerd, here's one for ya.

    "Who gave the K7 GSXR1000 it's very first race win on New Zealand soil?"
    Donno, i more technial side of things, but i am guessing that is you,

    but i can always say its not a real race really unless its @ national level? heheh

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