Manawatu Rant n Rave

**Pegasus** · 1st December 2009, 19:16

Originally Posted by gatch

I just don't know what else to do, (for want of a better cliche) this is how the system is, how do you change it ?

Only one way to change the system, and that is from the inside. Know anyone keen? I know I'm not, but would be more than happy to back someone that was.

**road king** · 1st December 2009, 19:20

Originally Posted by Meanie

they say the average wage is $80,000 pa Id love to be on that much but the dam goverment makes more money from my business than i do

my theory on this is that the "average wage" is driven way up by the likes of politicians that make WAY to much money and dont have to pay for shit!!

**bogan** · 1st December 2009, 19:21

Originally Posted by Meanie

We all stand by while the government keep putting all sorts of tax up.

we stand by because we beleive such taxes are necessary/fair, sometimes cos we are tricked into believing such things, the system is a democracy, so if we get enough people opposed to it, such changes shouldnt go through. In saying that though, wtf is the story with the anti smacking crap!

**Meanie** · 1st December 2009, 19:22

Originally Posted by gatch

I just don't know what else to do, (for want of a better cliche) this is how the system is, how do you change it ?

Not sure but i know i cant afford two regos when they go up

**Meanie** · 1st December 2009, 19:25

I cant put my prices up, if i do i run the risk of losing work Maybe a private ACC is the way to go Competition keeps inflation to a minimum
Government dont have any competition, they just raise taxes and thier own salaries and perks

**bogan** · 1st December 2009, 19:34

Originally Posted by Meanie

I cant put my prices up, if i do i run the risk of losing work Maybe a private ACC is the way to go Competition keeps inflation to a minimum
Government dont have any competition, they just raise taxes and thier own salaries and perks

the problem with privatisation is the overheads though, all the associated legal costs etc, 30% of claims for private or 10% for ACC i read somewhere, so on the whole ACC should be cheaper, as long as you aren't targeted

**chanceyy** · 1st December 2009, 19:37

Discussions to organise next round of protest action

ok well the news today seriously is a joke .. talk of the next bikeoi is underway (more on that when we have a date sorted)

Some of you guys indicated you wanted to be in the organisational front for protest action .. so if your keen pm me ..

have some ideas & I am sure some of you guys do, so will gauge interest over next few days & lets get into organisation mode ASAP

**Meanie** · 1st December 2009, 19:50

Originally Posted by chanceyy

Discussions to organise next round of protest action

ok well the news today seriously is a joke .. talk of the next bikeoi is underway (more on that when we have a date sorted)

Some of you guys indicated you wanted to be in the organisational front for protest action .. so if your keen pm me ..

have some ideas & I am sure some of you guys do, so will gauge interest over next few days & lets get into organisation mode ASAP

I am happy to do what i can and partake in whatever protesting i can but work and pressing family comitments mean i have very little time to spare

**chanceyy** · 1st December 2009, 20:14

Originally Posted by Meanie

I am happy to do what i can and partake in whatever protesting i can but work and pressing family comitments mean i have very little time to spare

No worries Meanie , just putting it out there, & hopefully we have enough ideas for good turn outs at differing protest action

Ps Flynn: will not make meeting morrow nite, off to have lunch with pollies on thurs so heading up the line morrow nite aft work

**gatch** · 1st December 2009, 21:17

Originally Posted by Meanie

Not sure but i know i cant afford two regos when they go up

No shit man, an extra $1000 for no change in service. What a crock..
I've already been stung like this, competenz decided that apprentices dont pay enough yearly for the privilege of being trained, blam 1200 buck a year gone.. I have to drink waikato now

Originally Posted by bogan

the problem with privatisation is the overheads though, all the associated legal costs etc, 30% of claims for private or 10% for ACC i read somewhere, so on the whole ACC should be cheaper, as long as you aren't targeted

I don't think privatization wold work anyway, its just inviting another monopoly for what is essentially a vital service..

**86GSXR** · 2nd December 2009, 07:44

Originally Posted by chanceyy

Discussions to organise next round of protest action

ok well the news today seriously is a joke .. talk of the next bikeoi is underway (more on that when we have a date sorted)

Some of you guys indicated you wanted to be in the organisational front for protest action .. so if your keen pm me ..

have some ideas & I am sure some of you guys do, so will gauge interest over next few days & lets get into organisation mode ASAP

So ACC telling lies again to gain public sympathy. Fark them then, more protest action required it seems. I'll be happy to help out, this issue is important!

**banditrider** · 2nd December 2009, 17:20

Originally Posted by 86GSXR

So ACC telling lies again to gain public sympathy. Fark them then, more protest action required it seems. I'll be happy to help out, this issue is important!

Likewise. There are so many issues with the current ACC plans it makes ya sick. I can't believe the lies they are getting away with. Been wondering if there is some way that they can be tackled through the legal system?

It's bad enough paying 3 vehicles worth of ACC at the moment but when the bike's rego is going to triple it's ridiculous. Anyone ever seen me riding both my bikes while driving my car? There is certainly no fairness at all with the way the current system works (even before the increases) and the no fault/no blame ideal has been buried and forgotten...