New ACC motorcycle levies confirmed

**sammcj** · 10th December 2009, 12:41

Originally Posted by oldrider

Oldest union trick in the book, want 2% ask for 20%, satisfaction @ 5%!

Yeah, sure saw that coming from a mile away.

This is still VERY unfair for people that own a car and a bike and have to register both.?!

**ukusa** · 10th December 2009, 12:44

Originally Posted by Waxxa

+1
Protests' to continue...until a more equatable levy can be set for all road users.

...and its' more about the philosophy of ACC that we need to fight for now

I agree fully, motorcyclists are still getting the raw end of the deal here!

**Bald Eagle** · 10th December 2009, 12:44

Originally Posted by bogan

and one in palmy the same day, get as many towns doing protests on this day to show Nick what he can do with his proposed increases would be a good idea I reckon. Theres no justification for charging different amounts for road users under the no fault ACC scheme.

edit, and why are they still splitting on a CC basis, its not done for cars

and one in wellington we still need to stop being singled out as a different type of vehicle user.

**ManDownUnder** · 10th December 2009, 12:52

Originally Posted by sammcj2000

This is still VERY unfair for people that own a car and a bike and have to register both.?!

Which raises a thought... THAT is something we have in common with all motorists.

Owners of two cars have to pay 2x the levy despite them only being used one at a time, or car collectors - having to expend more and more proportionate to their wealth, not their risk profile or burden on the system.

I wonder if the motoring public could be elevated from the traditional kiwi lethargy to actually speak out against it... and if so - what would the consequences actually be?

Levy would be made per license holder
Levy would need to increase per person (possibly based on classes of luicense held if Dickta Smith's mandate is maintained)
... would/could it actually bite us in the bum?

**MaxCannon** · 10th December 2009, 12:54

I don't understand the capacity split.

Three of us went for a ride on Sunday.
A 1200cc
A 1000cc
A 600cc

I don't like make to light of anyone crashing but guess which rider ended up in an Ambulance.

I think in general riders of larger bikes have more experience.
In this case I felt the crash was avoidable and the rider has been very fortunate to only suffer a broken arm.

I'd really like to see my levy increase go to funding rider training.

**Okey Dokey** · 10th December 2009, 12:57

Originally Posted by MaxCannon

I don't understand the capacity split.

I don't think it can be explained- it is a figment of ACC's imagination which they are determined to foist on us.

**dipshit** · 10th December 2009, 12:58

Originally Posted by wild_weston

AS LONG AS IT FUNDS MOTORCYCLE AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, FOR CAR DRIVERS. sorry for shouting.

So no emphasis on improving motorcyclist's habits then...????

**James Deuce** · 10th December 2009, 12:58

Originally Posted by MaxCannon

I'd really like to see my levy increase go to funding rider training.

Won't ever happen. They started down that path with the Direct Access scheme, realised it was encouraging people to buy and ride bikes and withdrew the scheme.

That sort of public comment is what got Ulysses in the poo.

**bogan** · 10th December 2009, 12:58

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Which raises a thought... THAT is something we have in common with all motorists.

Owners of two cars have to pay 2x the levy despite them only being used one at a time, or car collectors - having to expend more and more proportionate to their wealth, not their risk profile or burden on the system.

I wonder if the motoring public could be elevated from the traditional kiwi lethargy to actually speak out against it... and if so - what would the consequences actually be?

Levy would be made per license holder
Levy would need to increase per person (possibly based on classes of luicense held if Dickta Smith's mandate is maintained)
... would/could it actually bite us in the bum?

it'd bite those who only have one vehicle in the bum, but I currently have four registered and one on hold (two of which wont be renewed), so I'm all for the license based levy. There is probably the idea that those who have more than one vehicle are financially better off, which is true in some cases but BS in others, my 5 are probly only worth 10k all up, paying over 1k per year to keep em al on the road isn't financially viable for me. On the other hand what if someone only uses a car once or twice a month, which they borrow, still fair to charge them the same as me?

**dipshit** · 10th December 2009, 12:59

Originally Posted by MaxCannon

Three of us went for a ride on Sunday.
A 1200cc
A 1000cc
A 600cc

I don't like make to light of anyone crashing but guess which rider ended up in an Ambulance.

All three...???