Atheism actually doesn't imply anything besides the rejection of the idea of god (in any shape or form).
As such you could, validly, argue that atheism is indeed a religion since it is impossible to prove the non-existence of god, and as a consequence it is a belief rather than any true knowledge that lies at the base of atheism.
As a mathematical analogue I suppose you could say that atheism is akin to accepting the fact that no rational number divide by Pi could ever be an integer. From all principles, founded in reason mind, that is indeed true - but doing the actual testing (not just using theorems and other "tricks") would be impossible since there is, practically, an infinite number of rational numbers. ...I think, but then again, I am not sure and slightly drunk to boot. But hey...
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I believe there is a superstition centre in the mammalian brain which accomodates god, it's just a belief though. Probably.
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yes. have some commitment.
you think its co-incidence that earth is just the right distance away from the sun to sustain life? Or is it that life exists on earth because it can? If earth was created by god to sustain life then why didnt he use a better ruler and make all of earth inhabitable rather than covering 2/3 of it with water and making places like the north and south pole and the deserts? Life exists where it does because it can. There is no miracle in that.
two things come to mind.
If you talk to god.. your religous.. if he talks back.. your crazy.
and if something good happens, its gods will.. if something bad happens.. god works in mysterious ways.
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I am amazed at the money people on both sides of the "debate" to push their view.
Both Atheists and Christians can be dogmatic, narrow minded, pushy with their views, arrogant; and seem to posses all knowledge about life, the universe and everything. Both seem to get a kick out of baiting the other, and both sides seem incapable of respecting/ignoring the others beliefs.
Having just finished Hitchins book "God is not great- How religion poisons everything", I must say atheists have started to sound more preachy, and more intolerant of anyone who don't believe what they do (or is that don't?).
And just when you think we maybe have a slightly more enlightened, and tolerant society, someone wants to promote their view on the side of a bus- and the rest of us have to sit back and watch the fur fly.
Could be worse I guess, it could be an apology from Hone on the side of a bus- try finding someone who would believe that.
Meanwhile, Aucklanders of every creed etc silenty utter
'beep beep tootle whistle tootle boop beep''- R2D2
sorry.. should be who doesn't believe...
'beep beep tootle whistle tootle boop beep''- R2D2
You (and Hitcher I think) are confusing absence of belief (the core of atheism) with belief in absence.
I consider myself to be an atheist. I do not claim to have proved the non-existence of God (though I find the combination of characteristics attributed to the Christian God highly implausible). Neither do I claim to have proved the non-existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
isnt abscense of beleif agnostic? and beleif in abscense is aethiest?
Also it seems funny how when aesthetics talk of religion they start picking holes in Christianity, its just one of many, some believe in a higher power without the need to refer to any established religion at all.
And I would say that bus add is a raging success, most of us probably haven't even seen a bus with it on, but having discussions anyway.
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Hmmm, interesting distinction in an angels-on-heads-of-pins sort of way. Do I have an explicit belief that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist? Hard to say. Do I have an explicit belief that he does? No. Do I think the possibility that he does exist is sufficiently remote that it is not worth active consideration on my part? Yes. Does my position resemble a religious belief in the existence of the Great Father of the Pastafarians? I don't see how.Noun
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atheism (plural atheisms)
1. Absence of, or rejection of, belief in the existence of God or gods.
2. The belief that there are no gods.
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* The term atheism may refer either to an explicit belief that God or gods do not exist (sense 2 above), or to the mere lack of an explicit belief that God or gods do exist (sense 1 above). Some speakers do not distinguish between these senses; others distinguish them by using the terms strong atheism and weak atheism (respectively), or by using atheism to mean “strong atheism” and agnosticism or nontheism to mean “weak atheism”. (Similar distinctions may be drawn for related terms, such as atheist.) The distinction between strong atheism and weak atheism tends to be made primarily by atheists themselves.
Jrandom came up with a marvellous description of the distinction on another thread. I'll see if I can track it down.
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