Boycott The Radio Nework for supporting domestic violence

[Goblin]

I dont condone domestic voilence and I wont be listening to him either but I do believe that the 150k he paid her says he is/was very remorseful. She took the money then when she'd spent it all, she went to the media, not him.

Comparing him to a kiddie fiddler is like comparing apples and bananas.
Our National sport has a lot more domestic voilence than high profile television personalities but that all gets swept under the carpet and they have permament name suppression...because noone wants pointy ball sports to have a bad name. They guy has paid his dues. Let him get on with it.

[Karl08]

I am sure there are many of us, who have less than desirable pasts (including convictions for assault -domestic or otherwise). We are either defined by our past, or by what we have made from it.

I find it interesting that while there are folks on KB who deplore violence against women (as we should), KB is still littered with suggestions of violence when the issues of, say... a bike being pushed over, bikers being cut off in traffic, etc..well you get my point.

As for the "person" living next to a school... "I ask people to respect New Zealand's justice system and resist the temptation to name names or make other inflammatory comments." Got to say Hitcher- you can't have it both ways mate, if the court has made a decision- then we have got to respect that don't we?

[Goblin]

He broke her back and left her permanently disabled.

Oh really? She looked to me to be in good health tending her horses...and bleating about the media attention she's brought on herself.

[Oakie]

I wouldn't be happy having a man capable of inflicting that level of violence on anyone living next to me. .

And yet, unless you live in an old folks home, I'll bet you do. Any reasonably healthy person (including a woman) is capable of that level of violence if pushed far enough. Not saying it's right but the beast lurks within us all.

[slowpoke]

Every part of my limited intellect is telling me to leave this the hell alone......but I'm bored at work so WTF.

What abusive, judgemental, twisted, egotistical, paragons of virtue we are.

Here we are kicking doors, breaking mirrors etc lashing out physically and verbally at cars and drivers for such simple acts as failing to indicate. And we're proud of it, with nary a voice of contrition or admonition.

And none of us have lost our rag over something as trivial as a recreational sport have we? Our sports heroes have never lashed out on the field have they? If they have it's because sport is more important than real, life changing situations isn't it? One of our motorcycling champions did exactly what Veitch did, only to a fellow competitor recently, and there was hardly a murmur let alone a witch hunt. Quite the opposite, people were encouraged to drop it.....and we did.

And how many chicks here have ever lost it and slapped a guy? Tipped a drink over someone in a lil' hissy fit? Best you fess up now, quit your jobs and go into hiding, 'cos that's what is expected from the "Stone him!" brigade on here. Assault is assault isn't it? (which is apparently the same as paedophilia for some....)

Hmmmph, who are we to judge someone we've never met who lashed out in a real life situation we know nothing about? Oh that's right he's on TV so we know every aspect of his character, and being well paid he must be a cunt, and being more successful than us he needs to be dragged down a peg or two, eh?

The guy doesn't have a history of violence, has admitted doing a fuggin' shitty thing, and will continue paying the price for many years to come. His training is in journalism/media so what's he supposed to do, become a plumber? Let him get on with rebuilding a shattered life, he's going to be carrying the public shame for what may well be forever.

What good lil' media lap dogs we are.....jump boy, sit boy, roll over boy......"Good boy, here's another lil' tidbit".......it's fuggin' nauseating.

[wbks]

<rambling out of context crap>

I don't disagree to the fact that people should forget about Vietch, but are you really comparing tipping a drink over someone or kickin in door panels to a dude stomping on a woman so hard he fractures a bone in her back? I mean, I'm all for equality but theres something very fucked up about your perspective on the matter right now

[Winston001]

The guy doesn't have a history of violence, has admitted doing a fuggin' shitty thing, and will continue paying the price for many years to come.

Actually after this matter came to light, other violent incidents perpetrated by Tony Veitch going back a few years also became known. Because of his celebrity status and importance to his employer he was able to keep those quiet.

I do agree that public vindictiveness is distasteful - there is a place for compassion and forgiveness. However this man has never openly shown remorse or any comprehension of how vile his actions were. Instead he released carefully worded statements which in essence said he was sorry for the mess he'd got himself into. It was all about Tony.

Do you know if she had to pay it back? I think she should.......

I don't condone what he did at all, however I agree, she agreed to a bribe, then went back on her word, therefore he paid for a service, and she failed to provide it.........I wonder if it comes under the CGA? LOL!

I also thought it was illegal to accept bribes of this nature? (and of course to offer them).........so what's happening there?

I can guarantee that the financial settlement between them was carefully worded. Its unlawful to pay someone in return for not reporting a crime. But it is lawful to come to a private agreement of compensation without involving the courts.

As for breaking her word - that isn't true. A friend of hers whom she'd talked to in confidence actually broke the story. Kirsten herself refused interviews etc and maintained a dignified silence throughout the whole saga. She only told her own side after Tony had been convicted 9 months later.

[firefighter]

As for breaking her word - that isn't true. A friend of hers whom she'd talked to in confidence actually broke the story. Kirsten herself refused interviews etc and maintained a dignified silence throughout the whole saga. She only told her own side after Tony had been convicted 9 months later.

Yeah......She told her friend.....that is not keeping it all 'mum.'

She knew her friend would report it, and has now sold her story 9 months later.

Tony Veitch is due a refund.

I do however have to repeat I don't condone what he did at all (before the flames come) and am only making these statements in regards to the out of court settlement bribe money.

[avgas]

Actually after this matter came to light, other violent incidents perpetrated by Tony Veitch going back a few years also became known. Because of his celebrity status and importance to his employer he was able to keep those quiet.

I am always cautious about things like this.
Claims were made AFTER the later incident. Something tells me that the gravy train was on the boil at that point.
I think Veitch is a cock.......and probably a mongrel wife-beater to boot. But I also think he associates himself with the scum of women.
The previous probably got pissed off that the latter go paid out and they got nothing. So does that entitle them to a claim?

[Headbanger]

Yeah......She told her friend.....that is not keeping it all 'mum.'

She knew her friend would report it, and has now sold her story 9 months later.

Tony Veitch is due a refund.

I reckon shes got all the right in the world to fuck him back, Take his money and spill the beans. I'm sure he didn't ask her permission or discuss terms before he kicked her in the back while she was down.

He's a gutless little fuckin worm.

[CookMySock]

You listen to the raaaaaadio?

Like on your mantlepiece, radio?

Wasn't that invented hundreds of years ago, and obsolete 50 years ago?

Get digital, man.

Steve

[Skyryder]

I reckon shes got all the right in the world to fuck him back, Take his money and spill the beans. I'm sure he didn't ask her permission or discuss terms before he kicked her in the back while she was down.

He's a gutless little fuckin worm.

Yes a disgrace to the male sex. The only difference between Veitch and a rapist is that there was no sex involved.

The other thing I have seen no sign of remorse from Veitch. True to form once this issue got out of the courts he came out swinging. A second chance.................not a chance in my books.


Skyryder

[rustic101]

What? KB faces legal action if the identity of the bike pusher is published prior to the case, and Frosty's case against him is dead in the water if that happens.

Saying that Veitch is an odious piece of crap is in no way hypocritical and you're reaching in the extreme trying to connect the two. Neither KB nor Hitcher faces legal action for pointing out that Tony Veitch's target audience is likely to be comprised of a demographic that ranges from secretly supportive to openly celebratory of Mr Veitch's attempt to define the position of women in NZ as an easily silenced mobile punching bag, subservient to his "career". I don't remember it being illegal to object to someone of demonstrably dubious character being given a position of supposed public import. It isn;t illegal for him to try and re-establish his "career" either, but I wouldn't advertise during his segment lest me and my product be lumped in with the wife bashers.

Moderators are bikers and posters too. Are you suggesting that moderators aren't allowed to have opinions about anything at all? How is that in any way fair for a time intensive volunteer job? There's no money, no contract. I'm not following your line of reasoning at all. The post in Frosty's thread was clearly identified as "official moderator business". The post in this thread was Hitcher's opinion about Tony Veitch.

You a picture. However,,,, in fact, I'll stop there as trying to explain anything else my just confuse you more.

[rustic101]

I have a soapbox. I am standing on it. You appear to be either an idiot or a troll. It's Christmas, so I'll let you choose which.

Go and get a Fucking big dog up ya you clown!!! - See I can be sarcastic too, its easy..

What I provided to you was a statement based off fact that you appear to be a hypocrite. Rather than reply with something intellectual, you have replied with a personal attack. Which judging by a number of your historical posts seems to be the only thing you are good at!!!

Until such time as you are able to have an intellectual, adult debate and apply common sense and rules that are consistent with Law and Common sense then why don’t you just sit in the corner like the good little b’arch you appear to be (yet more sarcasm if you had not figured that last piece out).

Another – point unless you are able to be balanced and unbiased I suggest you hand in you moderator abilities,,

P.S Santa is not real stop acting like a three year old.

[Ronin]

What I provided to you was a statement based off fact that you appear to be a hypocrite.

Looked like an opinion based on a misinterpretation to me.

In the pushmeoverwithyourhandbag thread, Hitcher was, as part of the team that helps run the site, warning that as the case was before the courts caution was needed.

In this thread he was voicing a personal opinion.

You appear to be making it his problem that you don't understand the difference.


FWIW In my opinion Veitch should be left to rot in his own personal hell.