Chch Wednesday Night Cruises 2009-10

**Retroqueen** · 29th December 2009, 11:34

Originally Posted by dangerous

In your case KP 4000k in 2.5 months is impresive, BUT what that can do is have you repeating bad habbits... ya need the break and time inbetween the kilometers.

tupelo... LOL you do ride like shit,

Hey D, Do what I did and take them aside and ask them if they would like me to see how they are doing!!!!
On Sunday four of us rode and seeing as there were two "experienced" (I'll never be experienced enough") riders and two learners I took it upon myself to ask them if they wanted any advice.
I had let the cobwebs fly by then and was more than happy to follow and watch.
KP has improved immensely and she will go far. At this point I didn't see any "bad habits" She keeps her head on the "right" side of the middle white line and doesn't stray too far. Time and more riding and watching will benefit her...
Tupelo had never been asked and like he said hadn't thought to ask. Cruiser or no cruiser ya still need to understand the lines.
So I simply asked him to follow my lines and exaggerated them so he could get an idea about what is meant by "apex" and not hanging your head over the white line..
did the same last week with GEForce.
Shrek will tell you i was a shocker when I first got onto the XJR last year. wonder I never lost my head they way i was going...
So you guys who are quick to slag off and give these young ones and new ones shit about their riding and I don't mean only Mr D.
Pull your heads in, take some time and ask them if they want help instead of intimidating them with your experience and so called prowess!!!!
an hour of your time and positive energy is what they need!!
Shit that seemed more like $2 worth but I said it now

**KiwiPhoenix** · 29th December 2009, 11:39

Originally Posted by Retroqueen

KP has improved immensely and she will go far. At this point I didn't see any "bad habits" She keeps her head on the "right" side of the left hand line and doesn't stray too far. Time and more riding and watching will benefit her...

Thank you RQ!! It was definitely great to have you guys follow and give advice!

Originally Posted by Retroqueen

So you guys who are quick to slag off and give these young ones and new ones shit about their riding and I don't mean only Mr D.
Pull your heads in, take some time and ask them if they want help instead of intimidating them with your experience and so called prowess!!!!
an hour of your time and positive energy is what they need!!
Shit that seemed more like $2 worth but I said it now

Thats it, noone is just going to head up to someone and ask a stranger to watch them and give advice!! They will want to watch, then learn and then ask for help. Not everyone is like me and just starts to talk to people and ask questions!! I didn't get the name Bike W**re for nothing!!

**stevewederell** · 29th December 2009, 12:17

Only read the last two posts. At work and sleepy after feed of BK and about to hit more exciting paperwork...

To anyone who thinks or feels that my riding is shit, have stupid repetitive errors...you'd be right. I ( like many others I'm sure) will welcome comments and hints. I have had a lot of help from a number of riders and I have tried to correct my "style".

I consider myself to be a bit of a shit rider and that's why I'm happy to stay near the back and ride my own pace. I know the previous posts (that I haven't read) do not pertain to me, but any similar thoughts can be told to my face, help me get better. Posts and talking behind mine or anyone elses back helps no one and just tears down the cool community that we have.

Now lets all stop

, have a

and move on eh?

I think that comes to only $1.50 which is about all my lunch was really worth

**tupelo** · 29th December 2009, 12:25

[QUOTE=dangerous;1129590283
tupelo... LOL you do ride like shit, but think about it, you have started at the deepest of deep ends, never riden in ya life and you buy a bike and ride dunedin to chch, I amazed you made it. Thats ok tho cos ya have to start somewere. Im not sure how to help due to your choice of bike, the body positing I like to promote wont work the same, or maybe it will, duno never spent much time on a cruser, IMHO a hard style to learn on. But keep listening and learning and like all those willing you will make it.

NB: body position has a serious lot to do with how you corner, its not just about lines. IMHO[/QUOTE]

D. LOL I opened myself up for that one...You just wait until I pick up my new Ducati 1000 Monster next week that I will be riding back from Nelson..

**kerryhare** · 29th December 2009, 12:32

After reading all this, I don't think I will bother coming along on a Wednesday night ride for a very long time at least until I am a so called "experienced rider". which IMO will be a very long way off. I think there are some great teachers amongst the riders that go on the Wednesday night ride that I would love to learn off. RQ been one of them. I am always open to productive criticism. So if any one wants to take me under their wing I am all for it but it wont be on a Wednesday night.

**neels** · 29th December 2009, 12:39

Originally Posted by Hey wait for me!

Well thanks for all the advice people, will take all of it into consideration when i make the move to the next bike

Although i'm only riding a 250 at the moment i have actually been riding since i was 14, but i never got around to getting my full licence and have only owned small bikes and i haven't had a bike for the last 12 years. I thought that while i get my confidence back i'll start off again with a 250. For my height and weight I probably wouldn't get anything bigger than a 650/750 and something in a small frame too. I'd also love to give bucket racing ago one day too, it looks like a right royal bag of fun to me! I'm enjoying riding with the experienced riders on wednesday rides, following their lines and seeing how they ride. Its a great way to learn what to do and... ahem... in some cases what not to do...

I'm very much like you, started reasonably early but never got around to a full licence, in fact had my learners for 17yrs. Had about the same break you did then ran around on a 250 until I got my full a few years back. I'm enjoying riding my old 600, I was looking for something reasonably light and comfortable that was able to travel 2 up, and it was bloody cheap.

I've never had any sort of bike training so I'm happy for people to tell me what I'm doing wrong in fact I would appreciate it, I think I've survived this far by being a very average rider but with a very strong self preservation instinct.

**fireliv** · 29th December 2009, 13:17

Originally Posted by kerryhare

After reading all this, I don't think I will bother coming along on a Wednesday night ride for a very long time at least until I am a so called "experienced rider". which IMO will be a very long way off. I think there are some great teachers amongst the riders that go on the Wednesday night ride that I would love to learn off. RQ been one of them. I am always open to productive criticism. So if any one wants to take me under their wing I am all for it but it wont be on a Wednesday night.

Na kerry its not that bad. There is a difference between those who ride at the front and those who ride at the back. I know that if it wasnt for the people I have met at the WNR and the few pointers that I have been given along the way I would probably have not have gotten the confidence to do most of the rides I do. I am one of the orgional "Learner" riders in the group and I will always recommend the group to anyone as those that take the time to give pointers are awesome. However if you really want to learn do the course that Dangerous has put up a link to earlier cos those guys know how to teach.

I am with steve, I dont think of myself as an awesome rider at all, I think I have heaps to learn and am happy to sit at the back and take my time. However I do see myself as a competent rider, and this is thanks to the pointers I got from this group and from doing courses on my bike. I ride for me and no other. I also mainly do this ride these days for the social aspect, I love meeting everyone and catching up. I consider a lot of this group to be very good friends of mine and Phoenix so lets stop the bickering and keep it that way!

**McWild** · 29th December 2009, 13:58

I'd just like to point out to anyone watching the thread that is being put off from coming along (wouldn't be hard) that the BS that gets posted in this thread and the actual ride itself are very different beasts.

An overwhelming majority of people on the ride don't post in this thread.

Who can blame them.

EDIT: That's not to say that these posts are completely worthless, there have been some posts of some merit but they have very little to do with the way the majority look at these rides, and the only posts that actually one hundred percent matter are the ones that go "I think we should ride to x" and the ones that say "x is in y condition and so this suggestion is z"

**cruza** · 29th December 2009, 15:41

Originally Posted by SVboy

FFS Dave-pull your head in!!!

If ya drunk I'd buy ya a beer, but just more blingheading your way instead

**cruza** · 29th December 2009, 15:45

Originally Posted by phoenixgtr

Oh ffs. I'm getting sick of all this bitching and moaning and trolling. There's nothing wrong with an awesome wheely now and then as long as you're not putting other riders in danger!! Which leads me to my next point: If when on these rides someone does something that really upsets you (you're afraid for your safety) then we can talk to them politely and say "hey, could you not do that near me again?" Afterall, we're all human. We all like a thrill, but we all have our own boundaries

and bling for you too.

and bling for the ktm rider from wheatsheaf to gebbies pass, some nice air you had there

Never going to be perfect, big mix of people, Nice to see some others help out with advice, I'm only good enough to keep myself out of trouble so keep me mouth shut,

**dangerous** · 29th December 2009, 16:30

Originally Posted by Retroqueen

KP has improved immensely and she will go far. At this point I didn't see any "bad habits"

So you guys who are quick to slag off and give these young ones and new ones shit about their riding and I don't mean only Mr D.
Pull your heads in,

You are muddled up, I never hassled KP riding I used the example or 4k/2.5m as just that NOT as you read it.

slag off, give shit, pull my head in... FYI RQ again you have me wrong I dont give them shit and I will NOT pull my head in, I have and do p/m those that may wish for some help and if you are refering to tupelo I said rides like shit.. I only repeated his own words I also gave him praise for the distance he has come so far. If I slag of its in good tast and ment as no harm and is cos I give a shit.

Originally Posted by Retroqueen

Shrek will tell you i was a shocker when I first got onto the XJR last year. wonder I never lost my head they way i was going...

ok you hit me OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwww LOL so Ill hit you...
if you were a shocker (your words) ONLY just last year, how the bejevis can you be so good and such a good tutor in less than one year.. Iv been trying for 27yrs and still learning?

Originally Posted by kerryhare

After reading all this, I don't think I will bother coming along on a Wednesday night ride.

Why do you say this? all info has been helpfull and no abuse passed on... its all good, why be sceard? the group is now a very stable one.

**Dave-** · 29th December 2009, 17:58

Originally Posted by dangerous

You missed my point... at your age and HWFM, pay attention to what the elders say, we been around and seen it all ya know... like I posted ride safe learn slow go up in CC's and make it to my age then doing a wheelie like I posted is no more unsafe that riding in a straight line.

IMO its les safe for a greenie (but learning well) like you to be flunting ya self on what is one of the fastest bikes on the road/hills than it is for a old cock like me doing a wheelie in a empty road with no one watching. (you do relise the young think cos you handle a R6 so can they)

Stop right there... who the hell do you think you are Dave "your rides" ask me to leave... not possible, you sound like lama solo? loan rider... do you think you are a gang leader some one important... ya not just like me... get over it man you will find it more relaxing.

The roads are free for anyone to ride, and dicks wont last long and thats with out even having to threten them like you just did me. You are young and green man... but a hell of a good prick aswell.

So just for you dave... when you grow up (takes 100,000s of kms and decades) you to will be able to do this... and this

that'll about do it. sucessfull troll is sucessfull.

now to reap the benefits of being as cool as D.

sorry to everyone who got caught up in that I'm just trying to make a point to D that saying something to wind someone up then backing out with his usual "oh im just kidding" or whatever is annoying and doesnt gain any favours.

I thought about PMing him about it instead to make the point, but decided public humiliation would be more fitting, it seems the shoe is on the other foot now.

to anyone who wants to come on the ride, there is very little that is "dangerous" (not that one ^) about the wednesday night ride, there's been what? 2 or 3 accos? 1 by myself a long time ago, I'm not going to try deny anything and I've had feedback about "dodgy" riding from only a few people, but I think this is all well and truely outweighed by the excellent time had by like minded people doing something they love in a comfortable friendly environment.

the ride is not mine, it does not belong to me, I do not claim to have a gang or any ownership of it or anyone on it, i said this only to get a rise out of D, and it worked really well!

once again, sorry to those who got caught up, I have mad respect for everyone here but think I made my point.

**R1madness** · 29th December 2009, 18:03

Originally Posted by kerryhare

After reading all this, I don't think I will bother coming along on a Wednesday night ride for a very long time at least until I am a so called "experienced rider". which IMO will be a very long way off. I think there are some great teachers amongst the riders that go on the Wednesday night ride that I would love to learn off. RQ been one of them. I am always open to productive criticism. So if any one wants to take me under their wing I am all for it but it wont be on a Wednesday night.

Hey really its alright... this is just a bit of fun niggle you know, us old guys like to think we know it all, just dont ask us cause we too staunch (not really) lol and those young guys, they do know it all just ask them they will tell you (not really) hehehe, ...

the rides are a nice relaxed way to get out and meet some fellow (fellowesses???) riders and enjoy a social outing and get together. Do come along you will have a great time and meet some great people. oh and then you will meet the other unmentionable people like Dangerous, Dave, R1madness, oh wait...

**dangerous** · 29th December 2009, 18:15

Originally Posted by R1madness

Hey really its alright... this is just a bit of fun niggle you know, us old guys like to think we know it all, just dont ask us cause we too staunch (not really) lol and those young guys, they do know it all just ask them they will tell you (not really) hehehe

hahaha... so true, ya on to it