View Poll Results: Is the Govt's 3 new strikes law

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    3 strikes policy

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...licy-announced

    about bloody time. Hopefully it should stop those namby pamby judges giving out bullshit sentances to repeat offenders,
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    I support the three strikes policy. It worked great when introduced in LA, and I'm sure it it will a similar effect with a drastic reduction in violent crime here.

    And I'm happy to pay to keep those repeat violent offenders in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    I support the three strikes policy. It worked great when introduced in LA, and I'm sure it it will a similar effect with a drastic reduction in violent crime here.

    And I'm happy to pay to keep those repeat violent offenders in jail.
    Me too but by the time this weak kneed National coalition has watered the bill down so far that we will have to beg forgiveness from the criminal's for punishing them, the policy will be worthless anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Me too but by the time this weak kneed National coalition has watered the bill down so far that we will have to beg forgiveness from the criminal's for punishing them, the policy will be worthless anyway!
    what he said

    just shoot the cunts i reckon that will stop recidivism

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    I support the three strikes policy. It worked great when introduced in LA, and I'm sure it it will a similar effect with a drastic reduction in violent crime here.

    And I'm happy to pay to keep those repeat violent offenders in jail.
    Got a better idea? I've yet to see someone who was closely affected by a continual re offender complain about the judges who actually have a spine giving out harsher sentances, nor the three strikes plan
    Quote Originally Posted by jimjim View Post
    what he said

    just shoot the cunts i reckon that will stop recidivism
    yep, but thats not as humane as letting them kill and rape all over again according to the humanitarians who seem to be agaisnt domestic humanity

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    Doesn't go far enough, No violent offender deserves parole even on their first offense, and they should be locked up until death on their third offense. And supplied with a rope while they mull over a lifetime in a cell.

    All violent offenses done by youths should be dealt with in the adult court, and all offenders should lose the right of parole on their third offense no matter how minor it is.

    This is just more soft bullshit.

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    So it seems that this law will only apply to persons who are at least 18 years of age. What bullshit. In Christchurch (and I'm sure in all other parts of NZ) a lot of serious assaults are commited by people aged 14 or 15, sometimes even younger than that.

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    It's shit eh?! Why 18? Cos a 17 year old doesn't know that beating the shit out of some old guy is wrong?!

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    There were a few extreme examples from the US of people receiving huge custodial sentences for, in one case, stealing a pizza (as it was a third offence).

    This country does need tougher sentencing but this legislation is clumsy at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly View Post
    There were a few extreme examples from the US of people receiving huge custodial sentences for, in one case, stealing a pizza (as it was a third offence).

    This country does need tougher sentencing but this legislation is clumsy at best.
    You would have thought that after his second offence the offender would have been on their best behaviour ... however in NZ we are only talking about violent crime, not petty theft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukusa View Post
    about bloody time. Hopefully it should stop those namby pamby judges giving out bullshit sentances to repeat offenders,
    Judges' sentencing generally reflects society's standards. This proposed law is nothing more than harmless window dressing to buy off a minority coalition partner. If anybody thinks this will make any difference to crime and reoffending, they are deluded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    I support the three strikes policy. It worked great when introduced in LA, and I'm sure it it will a similar effect with a drastic reduction in violent crime here.

    And I'm happy to pay to keep those repeat violent offenders in jail.
    I'd be happier if we just dug a hole for them.
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    Heh, an attempt at winning back the popular vote eh... a platitude for the masses... and for sentences that only warrant a 5 year stint... if they require 5 years they should never be allowed out anyway... but hey, i'm only a member of the public with an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Judges' sentencing generally reflects society's standards. This proposed law is nothing more than harmless window dressing to buy off a minority coalition partner. If anybody thinks this will make any difference to crime and reoffending, they are deluded.
    However if one is actually deluded it doesn't necessarily mean that they believe it will make any difference. I'm sure some vocabulary nazi has a name for that.

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    get rid of the parole period is my opinion. if they're sentanced to 20 years - make them stay for 20 years, not get released in 5 so they can re-offend.
    i also like the option of turning the containers into cells that was in the news late last year. none of this "milton hilton" million dollar jailhouse type place (i'm sure it's nicer than my rented house - that i pay for).... and bring back hard labour, not free room, board and food.

    wasn't there a movie where they sent all the murderers, rapists etc (really really bad guys) onto an island and let them sort each other out?
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