Damn that must have sucked. $150 fine when unaware is surely a big/ expensive suprise.
BMW Motorrad
Damn that must have sucked. $150 fine when unaware is surely a big/ expensive suprise.
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Loud and Uncouth
I bet they won't be caught out again though....Originally Posted by EJK
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Hardout Cyclist
Ah well maybe you should stop at stop signs? Seeing as it's in the law and all.
Grumpy Old Bastard
Soooo...does this mean we see coppers sitting by stop signs with stopwatches in their hands?
"...Ahhh sorry Sir, but you only stopped for 2.984 seconds. $150 please thank you KaCHING!"
Strikes me as letter of the law, not spirit of the law...
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Moped rider
not going to be bothered contesting about it.After all I did slow down and stopped for a wee sec but definitely not enough for 3 seconds. The law is the law.
This situation kind of reminds me of road work signs with 30 km/h on a 80 k zone road, only the road looks perfectly fine and there are no workers around. Now try and do <30 with a big queue behind you ... But I knew people who have been caught out in these situation and received a big fine...
Lesson learned: Stop for 3 seconds next time (especially in city area with lots of cops around)
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road code rules
says come to a complete stop, doesnt specify how long, methinks the 3 sec "rule" is just a guideline, and perhaps you dint come to a satisfactorily complete stop so he just said 3 secs so you wouldn't argueStop sign
At an intersection controlled by a Stop sign, you must:
come to a complete stop, not just slow down
stop where you can see vehicles coming from all directions
stay stopped until you have given way to all other vehicles (including cycles and other motorcycles, etc)
use the give way rules if you and another vehicle are coming towards each other and you are both at Stop signs
not go until it is safe for you and all other traffic.
Single or double yellow lines are marked on sealed roads to help you stop where you can best see other traffic.
Forum whore
If there is no written requirement for a 3 sec stop, then, as long as you are stationary (ie, stopped, no forward movement), you can contest it! If they want you to stop for 3 seconds, then write it down in the law books!
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Come warm yourself by the fire
3 second stop is not the law.
bikers putting both feet down is not the law.
The law states you must stop ONLY. This means the vehicle can not move for a period. Since a period of response it typically 0.7 sec.....this means you must stop greater than atleast 0.5 second (any less and people external to you may not register that you stopped).
Either way you fail - as you did not STOP. So here is a hint - allow palm in right hand to let throttle close, pull clutch in with left hand, slowly ease in brake in right hand until vehicle STOPS, then slowly release fingers on both levers as throttle is applied.
STOP does not mean give way, slow down or even "be cautious for police".....STOP MEANS STOP. You can not blame anyone else for your lack of ability to fail the most simple law in the world
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Loud and Uncouth
Except when it's a Texas Rolling Stop (tm)
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Forum whore
There is no legal requirement to stop for three seconds (or any number of seconds). You must stop. Stop completely. And ensure the way is clear before proceeding. It might be hard to do that in less than three seconds. There is an implicit assumption that you stop THEN check the way is clear, not check left and right as you bowl up, stop for 100 milliseconds and proceed. The cops have obviously decided on three seconds as an internal convention to get round the "I did so stop - for at least 100 milliseconds" people. But if the cop admitted that you did stop (and would not deny he said that), then you should get off.
For whom the bell tolls
Bollocks. Pick up your balls and don't be such a fucking push-over. It's going to take you 10minutes max to potentially save yourself $150. Sound's like easy work to me. If you can honestly say that you stopped, and the cop at least agrees with that then you are off the ticket. The law is the law, so don't pay a fine if you haven't broken it.
KiwiBitcher
where opinion holds more weight than fact.
It's better to not pass and know that you could have than to pass and find out that you can't. Wait for the straight.
The guy with too many names
Its fairly simple, has to be your wheels that have stopped, such that when you start off again you have some static fiction on your wheels.
A good idea is to NOT glance left or right before stopping, and wait till you've stopped to look for the traffic, its not required but it helps make sure that you don't glance, see no ones there, and go through without fully stopping.
3 seconds is totally not the rule, but stopping is. Please learn to stop at that intersection because the number of people who go through it without stopping, sometimes even with the 'through' lane from the motorway direction having someone in it.
Double shot!!
lol what a sheep. Wander down to the police station and ask to speak to the sergeant and ask him what the hell is his staff thinking, and give him the ticket back and tell him to jam it.
Alternatively, read up on the Summary Proceedings Act and have some fun at the pigs expense. It will be an interesting excercise.
Steve
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Loud and Uncouth
And you'll be paying any 'expenses' incurred by this person following your advice.???
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Highway Biker
did you ask to see his calibration cert for his watch?
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