Cellphone tower in my backyard or not?

**Dave Lobster** · 20th January 2010, 19:24

Originally Posted by Elysium

Exactly. Bring out the tin foil!

I've met clowns that did that. And put all sorts of metal shit round their daughter's bedroom window to stop the death rays coming in. Best way to get all the 'radiation' to stay in. They were convinced that the antennas on the tower 300m away was giving their daughter leukemia. So convinced that they were in the local paper every other week gobbing off about it. Right up until the point someone told the paper that the girl's grandfather had died of it - in the 1960s. Thirty years before the tower was there. Wankers.

**bogan** · 20th January 2010, 19:53

oh i dunno, this mans tin hat seems to be doing the trick!

**Hitcher** · 20th January 2010, 20:17

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Are there any, or is it a load of crap?

Familiarise yourself and your staff with the inverse squared law.

**ManDownUnder** · 20th January 2010, 20:27

My uninformed opinion says "don't do it" but then my uninformed opinion isn't subject to the profits from it either...

**quickbuck** · 20th January 2010, 20:50

I say, DO IT!

As said, it will get put up anyway, and may be right next door!

A mate of mine turned down the big Digital company about 7 years ago, because his wife was afraid of 6 legged sheep.
As it happens, the tower went up on the neighbouring property.

Not only he missed out on the profits, they also missed out on 2 extra leg roasts per head (Na, jokes).

The radiation may well be a real thing, but FFS, I have spent the last 17 years working on stuff made from Mag Thorium... Should see the bloody Gigometer go off at that stuff...
Oh, and we always have stuffed radio reception in the workshop....

I believe Cell Towers are the least of our worries (Well mine anyway). Jet Fuel has more to answer for....

What I'm saying Steve, many things we touch in like (especially the fun stuff) is harmful.
You will die of worry if you sat down to work it all out......

Might as well get them to put that tower up.

**Fatt Max** · 20th January 2010, 21:25

Blimey, this debate had been raging on round my way for a couple of years. 2 Degrees Mobile have been putting towers up all over the joint but there is mazzive local opposition. According to the data I have seen, NZ allows a high emmission rate than anywhere else and studies have shown that these can be harmful.

The other argument is that no-one wants one of these things outside their house and REINZ have stated that they will drop the value of your house.

A lot of the protest has been aimed at the council who are pushing ahead with these towers and being accused of corporate greed and not listening to the voice of the community, which is scumbag councils at the best of time.

There is a lot of research and data to ease your mind regarding potential health risks, property values may be harder to evaluate.

My opinion, I oppose the way they have been put up around my local area. The community has strongly protested but the corporate $ appears to be worth more to the councillors than the will of the people who put them there.

My $0.02 worth

**Dave Lobster** · 21st January 2010, 04:29

Originally Posted by Fatt Max

According to the data I have seen, NZ allows a high emmission rate than anywhere else

No it doesn't. All cell sites have to be ICNIRP compliant.

Originally Posted by Fatt Max

studies have shown that these can be harmful.

Not scientific studies. And none of them credible. Generally written in crayon. Studies existing solely for the purpose of continuing to fund themselves.

**Dave Lobster** · 21st January 2010, 04:29

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**sidecar bob** · 21st January 2010, 06:41

Thanks for all the useful advice & discussion, i have learned more about it on here than through the individuals involved.
Dave L, thankyou for agreeing to allow me to consult with you throught the process as per the P.M, greatly appreciated.

**Pixie** · 21st January 2010, 07:25

Originally Posted by Donor

Yes... I realise that, however the phone is in my pocket when not in use and not pressed against my melon, and sterility is the least of my concerns

Ever tried getting a blowjob with a tumour on your nob?

**Usarka** · 21st January 2010, 07:32

Originally Posted by Edbear

Actual technical data suggests that any health risk is about the same as carrying a cellphone around and no-one seems to be up in arms about that. It's another case of fantasy v.reality. It's not like having a power pylon in your backyard which is a very defininte health risk.

Trouble is, the knockers are so vocal that people generally have no idea what the truth of the matter is. You're fightning an uphill battle to get people to reason on the actual facts these days. The towers are not that pretty, but you may have to do some real PR work with your staff and neighbours over the safety of it.

30 years ago the power pylon "knockers" were seen as the tin-foil hat wearers.

And also consider the hireability of new staff.......

**Edbear** · 21st January 2010, 07:38

Originally Posted by Usarka

30 years ago the power pylon "knockers" were seen as the tin-foil hat wearers.

And also consider the hireability of new staff.......

We've come a long way in thirty years as regards knowledge of radiation. Personally I agree with you to an extent, but nevertheless, I still carry a cellphone, use a wireless internet connection, a microwave oven and eat packaged foods. I wouldn't live in a house under or close to a power pylon but would near a cellphone tower.

I do agree SB will need to do some good PR work.

**sidecar bob** · 21st January 2010, 09:17

The staff member that was displaying signs of disquiet yesterday seems to be a lot happier about it today. maybe a family member has influenced their thinking.
one less thing to worry about.

**centaurus** · 21st January 2010, 09:57

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

As the owner & occupier of a industrial/ commercial property in Tauranga, a cell network approached me yesterday with a proposal to install a cell tower at the rear of my premisis.
The annual rent they have offered me for what is essentialy not much more than one car park size of land is lucrative to say the very least.
My concern is the potential health risk to the occupants of my property, which a member of my staff was not backward in informing me of.
Are there any, or is it a load of crap?
Cheers,
Steve.

You've just opened a big can or worms with this question. The fact of the matter is that this issue has been on debate for quite a while now and neither side has brought enough arguments to win. It hasn't been scientifically proven and tested that these things are bad for health but then nobody could prove that they are indeed perfectly safe either.

This means you can't tell whether this will do you any harm or not. However the one thing that will definitely do you harm (on the psichological level) will be going against your beliefs. You need to ask youself: "do I believe these things are dangerous?".

If the answer is even slightly YES, do not do it. Your subconscious will torment you for years making probably more damage than the radiation would. You will always feel secretly guilty for putting you, your family and your employees at risk and no ammount of money is worth that.

If the answer is NO, then go for it and don't mind anybody telling you otherwise. Not doing it will leave you always regretting for throwing away so much money.