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    Quote Originally Posted by breakaway View Post
    Really? That doesn't sound like normal behaviour. I've left my K1 GSXR1000 for over a month once and it started on the button.
    the battery must have been in it for about 5 - 6 years and over the last year has seen hardly any k's for one reason or another, plus i've just been away for 6 weeks and she was laid up a couple of weeks before that to get my forks out due to leaky seal... all in all she deserves a new battery.

    Am interested in the no shaking thing though as she do vibrate a little... I'll do a little more research

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    the battery must have been in it for about 5 - 6 years and over the last year has seen hardly any k's for one reason or another, plus i've just been away for 6 weeks and she was laid up a couple of weeks before that to get my forks out due to leaky seal... all in all she deserves a new battery.

    Am interested in the no shaking thing though as she do vibrate a little... I'll do a little more research

    cheers
    My batteries often just sit through the winter - possibly up to three months but I put the charger on them overnight every 4 weeks or so.

    And in mountings/boxes that shake the battery i have put the battery on a 'mat' of dense foam (although thick wet-suit stuff is not too bad) to help however there's not always room - and you have to find a way to make sure the clamps or whatever is still going to hold the battery in place.
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    Don't forget to do your linkage dogbones & swingarm needle bearings . Just done mine & all looked good after 53,000k's pulled them all out & cleaned them then repacked with Bellray waterproof grease plus checked the side link plates for wear . Have you replaced your plates with the stronger units for the 04 onwards from AF1 ?

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    BTW, a LiFePO4 will lose only 1% of charge per year. You could come back in 2 years and it'll still turn your RSV over as fast as ever.

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    gel battery in bighorn... huge crank amps advantage ... excellent charge hold (park up for a month at airport ... swt start... 5 years old).. will put in my 07 bm when the original dies ( holds charge ... huge crank amps .. no acid spill .. ever ... no brainer ... its not about themoney)

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    I thought AGM (absorbed glass mat) would be superior to Gel for motor vehicle applications, as they are better suited to high bursts of amps.
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    I have been informed that an advantage of a gel battery, is that it can be mounted in any orientation (on its side, end). Marine use sometimes makes this necessary.
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    A friend of mine was looking for a gel cell for his race car, didn't want to shell out $350+ for one from a 'race supplies' shop. Turns out those little $50ish jumper packs you can buy from Supercheap or Repco have a nice little gel cell in them. This battery is no bigger than a bike one, but starts the car every time even if it has been sitting for 6 months.

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    It's unlikely any of these are gel batteries.
    They'll be AGM because AGM does everything gel used to only better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    It's unlikely any of these are gel batteries.
    They'll be AGM because AGM does everything gel used to only better.
    You could be right there, there's only numbers and strange chinese characters on the battery so I'm only guessing.

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    The only difference between a Gel Battery and standard Lead Acid is, the Acid in the gel Battery has a Gel agent in the battery, and are obviously non serviceable, though you have to watch recharging a Gel battery, as there is a pressure valve in the battery if the battery gets to hot, it can loose electrolite, I have seen Gel batteries where the battery has been seriously over charged, and the relife valve has failed, and the battery has ended up looking like a ball.
    Gel batteries are usualy used in the likes of electric scooters, golf carts etc, all lead acid batteries are best stored fully charged, as Scummy does, though over charging a lead acid battery is just as detrimental to the life of the battery as under charging, a good rule of thum is not recharging a battery any longer than 24hrs max, and if you are recharging a lead acid battery regurly, then 4 to 8 hrs should be sufficiant in most cases.
    Trical chargers keep putting a continuious charge into your battery, and have been known to ruin batteries reasonably quickly, so it is wise to disconect these battery chargers after you have recharged your battery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedrostt500 View Post
    The only difference between a Gel Battery and standard Lead Acid is, the Acid in the gel Battery has a Gel agent in the battery, and are obviously non serviceable, though you have to watch recharging a Gel battery, as there is a pressure valve in the battery if the battery gets to hot, it can loose electrolite, I have seen Gel batteries where the battery has been seriously over charged, and the relife valve has failed, and the battery has ended up looking like a ball.
    Gel batteries are usualy used in the likes of electric scooters, golf carts etc, all lead acid batteries are best stored fully charged, as Scummy does, though over charging a lead acid battery is just as detrimental to the life of the battery as under charging, a good rule of thum is not recharging a battery any longer than 24hrs max, and if you are recharging a lead acid battery regurly, then 4 to 8 hrs should be sufficiant in most cases.
    Trical chargers keep putting a continuious charge into your battery, and have been known to ruin batteries reasonably quickly, so it is wise to disconect these battery chargers after you have recharged your battery.
    A friend of mine who services UPS's calls them "pregnant" batteries.
    It's not caused by failure of the valve and internal pressure increase,but by a chemical reaction causing excess lead sulphate making the plates swell.

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    Gel also allows the battery to be housed/mounted on an angle or...not bolt upright like Acid...man.

    Some lies down under the seats's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedrostt500 View Post
    though you have to watch recharging a Gel battery, as there is a pressure valve in the battery if the battery gets to hot, it can loose electrolite, I have seen Gel batteries where the battery has been seriously over charged, and the relife valve has failed, and the battery has ended up looking like a ball.
    I had read about the sensitivity of charging gel batteries, pretty much puts them out of the running for me as the Prila is a hot sucka.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie
    It's not caused by failure of the valve and internal pressure increase,but by a chemical reaction causing excess lead sulphate making the plates swell.
    Apparantly you can get that sorted, some form of descaling... again, too much of a downside for me.

    I see that they're building AGM/Gel hybrid batteries too. Way too confusing at the moment, so i'll just go for plain old wet-cells and pad the battery floor and sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Gel also allows the battery to be housed/mounted on an angle or...not bolt upright like Acid...man.

    Some lies down under the seats's
    My battery is mounted at an angle - it's normal for the VFR due to lack of clearance. It's an AGM one - currently a 'MotoBatt' from Cycletreads, and blardy good value. Cost me less than the last crappy Koyo battery, and it's got higher CCAs and amp-hours than the standard Yuasa one.
    If you haven't got a battery yet, check out Cycletreads.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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