Update on running a kids grade.

[woodyracer]

When you start banging on about jumps you are talking about junior MX not minis, unless the rules have changed since I last did a stewards course. Minis have strict rules on how the courses are laid out and this includes top speeds, no jumps and max length of straights. The last change I heard of was also to allow no engine mods.
Mini MX is huge but I suspect that this might be due to the fact that in most cases dad and or mum rides as well. If you really want big numbers, look to trail rides, no racing and 300 plus people showing up is not unusual. More and more whole families riding as well. Not sure we'll ever see that in any form of road racing.

yer trail rides get huge, mum and dad and the kids can all ride for a good price ,also it fun,safe....... motorcross is very strong in NZ for youth and seniors but road racing is growing......

[Yow Ling]

So its a NO then. all sorted, nothing to see , move along

[oyster]

More and more whole families riding as well. Not sure we'll ever see that in any form of road racing.[/QUOTE]

I suggest you should have visited the pits at Ruapuna at the GP (Natiional) round. And after the racing,
under the strict Young Junior Road Race rules, 3 young ones were coached on the full track, followed by a podium photo shoot on the podium. At ages 10, and two 12 year olds, not only were they winners, but surely
the future of our sport. Most of the negative posters here need to get their heads out of the sand.
Read your rulebook, ref 15-17, and further more, the second page
"Fostering the Sport of Motorcycling, making it safe, fun and fair" Tell me whats fair about a club denying
young ones their right to use a class in the rule book. Imagine the uproar if Glen W Terry F and Jason E
and three "ropes ins" were told the F3 championship was off this year because of low numbers. It neary
happened. And why is is so "decayed"? Go back to the start of this post.....

[F5 Dave]

What 'club' is this? wgtn there isn't a club for buckets, just a few volunteers. This isn't vic club run. please keep your opinions where you have all the information rather than telling an organiser what he should be doing.

[Trudes]

We haven't denied anyone anything other than doing it on one track here in Wellington, where it seems the majority of the people who this will actually directly effect, don't want it run, including at least one of those with kids that are old enough to fit into the category.

[oyster]

What 'club' is this? wgtn there isn't a club for buckets, just a few volunteers. This isn't vic club run. please keep your opinions where you have all the information rather than telling an organiser what he should be doing.

Bucket racing is a defined class under MNZ rules. Under NZ law you need a permit to run this, for that you need a host MNZ club. Simple. Running other "meetings" without MNZ rules or affiliation is plain foolish. It 's all fine
till it really really goes wrong. I use to run bucket training sessions strictly to mNZ rules but indemified to the Kart Association. On legal advice I switched to making it a wholly MNZ permitted process. No drama here, just different paperwork.
Interesting enough that Young Junior Road Race was initially applied for by Steve Scullion and Hamish Laing, of Wellington who saw the potential for this within their Bucket community.

And what information do I seem to be missing? I think I'm doing better than quite a few on this thread who have stated nothing exists for riders under 13 years old in NZ. Obviously quite wrong, Young Junior Road Race has

[oyster]

Bucket racing is a defined class under MNZ rules. Under NZ law you need a permit to run this, for that you need a host MNZ club. Simple. The quote was referring to a member who rides buckets in Auckland. It's fair to assume he rides at MNZ meetings. Maybe I'm wrong.
Running other "meetings" without MNZ rules or affiliation is plain foolish.
It 's all fine till it really really goes wrong. I use to run bucket training sessions strictly to mNZ rules but indemified to the Kart Association. On legal advice I switched to making it a wholly MNZ permitted process. No drama here, just different paperwork.
Interesting enough that Young Junior Road Race was initially applied for by Steve Scullion and Hamish Laing, of Wellington who saw the potential for this within their Bucket community.

And what information do I seem to be missing? I think I'm doing better than quite a few on this thread who have stated nothing exists for riders under 13 years old in NZ. Obviously quite wrong, Young Junior Road Race has

Opps, crappy computer (or operator)
Young Junior Road race has been in the rule book since July 2005, and used to good effect. How else
could we have got a NZ Champion at 15 yrs and 20 days old, another Young JRR "grad" won two 125GP National races at 14.

Yes, a bit rude to say "heads in the sand" .Should be more accurate: People who have no interest in the future of the sport through youth.
Some think this is important, others not . I've got no problem with that, so long as people remain fair
and give these young riders the same opportunities as others (as they're entitled)

It's free world, it's not illegal to be egotistical and selfish.

[F5 Dave]

Peter we know that you have had the drive and motivation to set up a lot of training and support for youngsters down Canterbury. But if our organisers don’t want to put additional effort into it with the same time & gusto that you have managed then, well that is pretty much that. Vic club aren’t particularly interested & last time we lost the track was when the above guys got out having been burnt out.

[Mudflaps]

We haven't denied anyone anything other than doing it on one track here in Wellington, where it seems the majority of the people who this will actually directly effect, don't want it run, including at least one of those with kids that are old enough to fit into the category.

I agree.

People are getting very deep in conversation about this where there seems to be quite a simple solution. Just run this class at the slip way meets. Then no one is going to get offended, or lose access to a great track if something goes wrong.

If it works out over time, maybe then some off the better young riders could start up a c class at normal bucket meets.

Baby steps I recon.