Targeting group rides

[shrub]

Maybe the stats say that but the only offs I have witnessed (either on the spot or the aftermath) were solo riders misjudging shit (like their own abilities for example) and one poor newbie on a 250 had some dork pull out in front of him. I wouldn't deny that it happens but I've been on numerous rides with machine counts well over 350 and I've neither seen, nor heard of, bike versus bike incidents.

And I'm the exact opposite, all the accidents I've seen (one) or have happened to mates have been on group rides. Having said that, it would seem to me that these days group riding is more the norm than solo - I wonder how many people are out riding in groups every weekend compared to solo or in pairs? All you need is one big group and you've got more bikes than you'll see solo on a given weekend, so my guess is there are more people riding in groups, so there are likely to be more offs on group rides - I refer you to Ix's earlier post.

Like I said before, a badly run group ride (or a solo loony riding beyond his skill) is a recipe for disaster whereas a well run group ride is fine.

[Cracker]

i WAS BORN WITH AN EGO, CAME FROM MY MOTHER
IT WON'T GO AWAY
I LOVE RIDING BIKES, GENERALLY FAST AND A LITTLE LOOSE
I AM THE PROBLEM
SORRY, CAN'T BE FIXED

[Maha]

i WAS BORN WITH AN EGO, CAME FROM MY MOTHER
IT WON'T GO AWAY
I LOVE RIDING BIKES, GENERALLY FAST AND A LITTLE LOOSE
I AM THE PROBLEM
SORRY, CAN'T BE FIXED

Oooooooooo you sound 'HARD'........

[R6_kid:Me]

I am unconvinced.

Obviously , if 50 people go out on a ride there is 10 times the likelihood of something happening , than if 5 people go out. That applies to crashes , breakdowns, chundering in helmet, whatever.

But the likelihood for any specific rider is, I think, no different to riding alone. In fact, arguably less, since you have the benefit (usually) of following someone , (and when he hits the gravel etc, you will maybe have a little warning) .

Unfortunately Ixion in this case it's about psychology not statistics. People do things differently in group situations, the more people the more "group think" comes into effect. Unless you are aware of the ways in which you think differently in a group it can actually be quite dangerous. I'm not going to go into huge detail, but one example would be if you are in a group of bikes and a majority proportion are riding in a certain way then it's likely that the rest of the group will tend to follow suit - whether that is the norm for them or not. The sad thing is that it usually only takes one wayward sheep to lead the herd off the cliff.

i WAS BORN WITH AN EGO, CAME FROM MY MOTHER
IT WON'T GO AWAY
I LOVE RIDING BIKES, GENERALLY FAST AND A LITTLE LOOSE
I AM THE PROBLEM
SORRY, CAN'T BE FIXED

Is it cool being able to suck your own dick?

[peasea]

I wonder how many people are out riding in groups every weekend compared to solo or in pairs?

It would be a close thing if I were to total the k's done solo or in pairs. My other half and I tour together and I can't think of anyone else who I'm more comfortable to ride with. It's very rare for me to NOT know where she is on the road and vice` versa; perhaps that rubs off onto others when we're in a group. I hope so.

[peasea]

i WAS BORN WITH AN EGO, CAME FROM MY MOTHER
IT WON'T GO AWAY
I LOVE RIDING BIKES, GENERALLY FAST AND A LITTLE LOOSE
I AM THE PROBLEM
SORRY, CAN'T BE FIXED

Don't come to the Mainland, please

[pritch]

Farmers have a saying, something like,
"One dog, you've got a dog
Two dogs, you've got half a dog.
Three dogs, you've got no dog at all."

Boys are like dogs, and so are some people who should be old enough to know better.

As soon as a group ride starts some people throw their brains into neutral, all manner of idiocy becomes acceptable.
I've seen it more than once, and other local KBers of my acquaintance are familiar with the sydrome.
It doesn't happen on every group ride, but it does happen too often.

[shrub]

Don't come to the Mainland, please

I doubt he leaves his computer.

[peasea]

I've seen it more than once, and other local KBers of my acquaintance are familiar with the sydrome.

A 'sydrome'?
Is that when your buddy Sydney goes walkabout?

[swbarnett]

It would be a close thing if I were to total the k's done solo or in pairs. My other half and I tour together and I can't think of anyone else who I'm more comfortable to ride with. It's very rare for me to NOT know where she is on the road and vice` versa; perhaps that rubs off onto others when we're in a group. I hope so.

Likewise. Being a commuter most of my riding is solo (unless you count the Auckland traffic). Also, so far almost all of my weekend riding has been either solo or with my wife.

[peasea]

Likewise. Being a commuter most of my riding is solo (unless you count the Auckland traffic). Also, so far almost all of my weekend riding has been either solo or with my wife.

Through what areas of Orks do you commute and how far?

I have a fairly easy 25km jaunt into Nelson and lately it's been an absolute pleasure each way.

[shrub]

I have a fairly easy 25km jaunt into Nelson and lately it's been an absolute pleasure each way.

I'm about to start postgrad studies at Lincoln which will entail a 24 km commute each way. I can't wait!

[peasea]

I'm about to start postgrad studies at Lincoln which will entail a 24 km commute each way. I can't wait!

Why? Lotsa girlies to perv at or wot? Umm, you love the work?

Oh,oh, the ride each way! Yup, that'll be it.

(Winter will wake you up, that's for sure.)

[shrub]

And best of all I'm studying motorcycle safety so I have to read about bikes, ride bikes, do track days and talk about bikes. Until now it's all been voluntary, now I am obliged to do it. While I admire the young ladies.

[swbarnett]

Through what areas of Orks do you commute and how far?

I have a fairly easy 25km jaunt into Nelson and lately it's been an absolute pleasure each way.

17km of motorway or urban roads depending on when I leave home. I live in Mairangi Bay (North Shore) and work in the CBD. Dear say I get more traffic to negotiate than you. Still, I'd far rather do it on a bike than stuck in a cage. The filtering can be a hoot if the conditions and mood are right.