Buses/Coaches pissing on our roads!

**Swoop** · 8th February 2010, 10:12

Originally Posted by red mermaid

Stock trucks are allowed to drop waste, but this exemption only applies while they are carrying stock.

Why is this? Fitting a holding tank should be required.
We have enough hazards on our 3rd world roads, as it is.

**crazyhorse** · 8th February 2010, 11:18

Originally Posted by sunhuntin

if the stock trucks can dump shit on the road without much chance of consequences, why would dumping human shit be any different? lol

A part flush of the toilet cistern would probably be why........... think of all that water at once

visions are too much to handle :killigme

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 8th February 2010, 11:51

Well seeing the amount of fluid being poured onto the raod I struggle to belive it was run of from the AC. As the coach went round corners the flow would increase in the run of outside of the corner. The fluid did look clear (difficult to tell really) but there was a steady stream of it.

The AC run of on my car is more like a very slow drip. For instance if I pull up and tick over for 5 mins there will be a tiny pool of water size of a mouse mat. I know the units in coaches are much bigger so a faster drip would be expected but I often see this cascade of fluid when they are on the move and have yet to really notice it when they are stationary.

**red mermaid** · 8th February 2010, 18:56

Because when the law was drafted, Federated Farmers and the Road Transport Forum made submissions on behalf of their members along the lines of, how can we stop animals we are carrying crapping on the road?
So they got the exemption.

However once they have no stock on board they are not allowed to spill any waste.

Originally Posted by Swoop

Why is this? Fitting a holding tank should be required.
We have enough hazards on our 3rd world roads, as it is.

**scumdog** · 8th February 2010, 18:57

Originally Posted by red mermaid

Because when the law was drafted, Federated Farmers and the Road Transport Forum made submissions on behalf of their members along the lines of, how can we stop animals we are carrying crapping on the road?
So they got the exemption.

However once they have no stock on board they are not allowed to spill any waste.

Somebody down here should tell some of the truck drivers that.....

**oldrider** · 8th February 2010, 19:23

Originally Posted by red mermaid

If a bus dumps anything on the road it is illegal. They must have a holding tank to collect grey water and septic waste.

Stock trucks are allowed to drop waste, but this exemption only applies while they are carrying stock.

Did you actually check that?

I don't think they are but they never get pulled up for dumping stock effluent on the road anyway, nobody seems to care, except us and maybe one day ACC!

**peasea** · 8th February 2010, 19:33

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

While we're on the subject of heavy vehicles, why do big diesel trucks emit that 'blow off valve' noise?

If the vehicle is cruising along, without the brakes being activated, it will be the compressor (for the brakes) by-passing after the braking system has reached a pre-determined pressure. If the driver isn't using the brakes, no pressure is lost in the system (hopefully) but the compressor still runs and wants to add to the system; becuase that pressure isn't required it by-passes to atmosphere.

**Sable** · 8th February 2010, 21:09

Could be diesel. A lot of operators overfill the tanks and it tends to slosh out when the bus changes direction or speed.

**quickbuck** · 8th February 2010, 21:18

Originally Posted by peasea

If the vehicle is cruising along, without the brakes being activated, it will be the compressor (for the brakes) by-passing after the braking system has reached a pre-determined pressure. If the driver isn't using the brakes, no pressure is lost in the system (hopefully) but the compressor still runs and wants to add to the system; becuase that pressure isn't required it by-passes to atmosphere.

To add to this, I'm pretty sure Truck Brakes are "Fail Safe".
This means that the compresses air actually holds the calipers open, and they are spring loaded on.
SO when you loose air pressure your brakes come ON.

This is why there used to be many huge lock-ups down the road.
This was caused by the trailer couplings coming undone during the trip.
The coupling system has obviously got better, as you don't see it much anymore.... OR, is it because I live in a different island now???

**peasea** · 9th February 2010, 05:29

Originally Posted by quickbuck

To add to this, I'm pretty sure Truck Brakes are "Fail Safe".
This means that the compresses air actually holds the calipers open, and they are spring loaded on.
SO when you loose air pressure your brakes come ON.

Quite correct

**red mermaid** · 9th February 2010, 16:47

Originally Posted by oldrider

Did you actually check that?

I don't think they are but they never get pulled up for dumping stock effluent on the road anyway, nobody seems to care, except us and maybe one day ACC!

I dont need to check if this correct. It is part of my bread and butter, something I have been dealing with for about 26 years.

And yes, they do get issued notices. $600.