Have racers gone soft?

**sugilite:Me** · 15th February 2010, 08:53

The format is wrong, they need other forms of entertainment to attract families. There is currently nothing to do for mum and kids. There is a lot of competition out there for entertainment dollars, and just being a one trick pony (bike racing only) will never cut it these days. Due to the nature of my current job, I travel to events all over NZ every Weekend, and quite frankly compared to most other events, the nats have a very droll atmosphere...if your a spectator.

**scrivy** · 15th February 2010, 09:24

Originally Posted by Shaun

You are so correct mete. I have been involved for 25 years now, and the riders have always been apethetic, and just choose to bag the name MNZ all the time

Shaun, how many riders/individuals wanted a rule change to more production based bikes for the supers? What was the %? What exactly was the outcome of their requests? And you wonder why they are upset with MNZ?

Can someone tell me why we go through this same shit every year? Why we get on here and complain about our series?
Why does MNZ have to run the Nationals?
Why can't there be a stand alone organisation that runs it, and they are accountable to us. If there is a problem, we then complain about it and changes have to be made.
What exactly has changed in the Nationals in the last 20 odd years, apart from decreasing numbers??
We all talk about trying to fix it, when no one is prepared to sit around a table and actually rectify it!

**Quasievil** · 15th February 2010, 10:01

YAY some people agree !

I vote Scrivy runs it !

**Shaun** · 15th February 2010, 10:38

Originally Posted by scrivy

Shaun, how many riders/individuals wanted a rule change to more production based bikes for the supers? What was the %? What exactly was the outcome of their requests? And you wonder why they are upset with MNZ?

Can someone tell me why we go through this same shit every year? Why we get on here and complain about our series?
Why does MNZ have to run the Nationals?
Why can't there be a stand alone organisation that runs it, and they are accountable to us. If there is a problem, we then complain about it and changes have to be made.
What exactly has changed in the Nationals in the last 20 odd years, apart from decreasing numbers??
We all talk about trying to fix it, when no one is prepared to sit around a table and actually rectify it!

I Posted a pre paid sef addressed envelope to every single road racing license holders a few years ago about all of this, I got about 40 replies from a shit load sent out, buch of pathetic wankers out there man, I would not waste my effort ever trying to help the majority, just the ones that show true dedciation and commitment

And that had Nothing to do with MNZ, so how is it always there fault?????

**Quasievil** · 15th February 2010, 10:46

Originally Posted by Shaun

And that had Nothing to do with MNZ, so how is it always there fault?????

The word Fault is prolly a bit hardcore (not that you said it man) but perhaps ''responsibility" for the event and its success or otherwise rests with MNZ ?

**Shaun** · 15th February 2010, 10:53

Originally Posted by Quasievil

The word Fault is prolly a bit hardcore (not that you said it man) but perhaps ''responsibility" for the event and its success or otherwise rests with MNZ ?

Rests with MNZ yes. But all riders were notified re the plan, and jack shite replied why< because they all want some one to wipe there arses for them

Why invest your time and energy to help people that are not prepared to get off there buts and do some spade work

And very soon, I am sure some License holders involved in this thread, are going to be recieving at least warning letters from some where RE, " Bringing the sport into dis repute"

Carefull with your choice of blaim Team

**Quasievil** · 15th February 2010, 11:30

Originally Posted by Shaun

And very soon, I am sure some License holders involved in this thread, are going to be recieving at least warning letters from some where RE, " Bringing the sport into dis repute"

Carefull with your choice of blaim Team

You reckon mate, Im rather expecting them to ring a few and take some of these ideas further, that would be the sensible approach. Like all we need to take comments constructively I think

**Shaun** · 15th February 2010, 11:38

Originally Posted by Quasievil

You reckon mate, Im rather expecting them to ring a few and take some of these ideas further, that would be the sensible approach. Like all we need to take comments constructively I think

Agree re the " Comments" bagging organsations is another thing though

**scrivy** · 15th February 2010, 11:59

Originally Posted by Shaun

I Posted a pre paid sef addressed envelope to every single road racing license holders a few years ago about all of this, I got about 40 replies from a shit load sent out, buch of pathetic wankers out there man, I would not waste my effort ever trying to help the majority, just the ones that show true dedciation and commitment
Which is why every year we keep saying the motivated people should be sitting around a table to rectify the situation!
And that had Nothing to do with MNZ, so how is it always there fault?????

Who said that letter of yours was MNZ's fault Shaun?

Originally Posted by Shaun

Rests with MNZ yes. But all riders were notified re the plan, and jack shite replied why< because they all want some one to wipe there arses for them
Why invest your time and energy to help people that are not prepared to get off there buts and do some spade work
And very soon, I am sure some License holders involved in this thread, are going to be recieving at least warning letters from some where RE, " Bringing the sport into dis repute"
You have some heads up on it do you??

Carefull with your choice of blaim Team

Blame is currently apportioned to both sides Shaun.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. I too will not stand by and take harrasment for fabricated alledged actions.

**Toast** · 15th February 2010, 13:09

Blah, blah, same old shit recycled in this thread...Entered today and it's gonna be a blast!

**Whitebait** · 15th February 2010, 18:22

Originally Posted by Toast

Blah, blah, same old shit recycled in this thread...Entered today and it's gonna be a blast!

Good on ya Toast! Thats the attitude mate!

**lostinflyz** · 15th February 2010, 18:43

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Not to be read the wrong way (as KB does) I meant perhaps the rider doesnt feel he is up to it (maybe rightly who knows) so doesnt bother with the Nationals

alotta people are flat out scared of nationals. I manned up and am getting better results than i would club racing.

Sure the times are faster and theres more fast guys, but for the most part im not at the back (just) and not at the front, so its all the same.

**Str8 Jacket** · 15th February 2010, 19:11

Originally Posted by lostinflyz

Sure the times are faster and theres more fast guys, but for the most part im not at the back (just) and not at the front, so its all the same.

Yep, if you aint pushing yourself then you aint learning anything!! I reckon I learn more when I have a faster rider in front of me and I am pushing to get past them/keep up with them!

**wharfy** · 15th February 2010, 21:45

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

Yep, if you aint pushing yourself then you aint learning anything!! I reckon I learn more when I have a faster rider in front of me and I am pushing to get past them/keep up with them!

Yes .... and at most "CLUB" meetings 30 of the 35 starters in 600SP are faster than me !!!