Horn dying

**paturoa** · 19th February 2010, 18:17

What colour are you dying it?

Seriously now, give the connectors / wires a wiggle as you are "sounding your horn", it may be just a stuffed connector or such like.

**Owl** · 20th February 2010, 10:49

Originally Posted by paturoa

What colour are you dying it?

Seriously now, give the connectors / wires a wiggle as you are "sounding your horn", it may be just a stuffed connector or such like.

Agreed! I had a new horn installed and it was pathetically quiet. Cleaned the connections, added some Lanocote and it's now mint.

**slofox** · 20th February 2010, 11:43

You could always get a Stebel - scare the living shit out of cyclists with it...hehehe

**CookMySock** · 20th February 2010, 11:50

Originally Posted by quickbuck

Because you are asking way too much of the poor little component.
The fact that you are pouring loads of current back into the battery for an extended period of time creates a lot of heat. Regulating voltage, and rectifying current does that. [..] With a fully charged battery it can be left just to run the lights and ignition system like it is designed to do....

This would be true for a series regulated system, but motorcycles use a shunt regulated system. Basically, the stator is under a constant load, varying only with engine rpm.

With a flat battery, the diode rectifier set will be under a larger load than usual, but the regulator part will actually be under less load.

It surprises me that there isn't a modern switching regulator available.

Steve

**quickbuck** · 20th February 2010, 11:59

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

This would be true for a series regulated system, but motorcycles use a shunt regulated system. Basically, the stator is under a constant load, varying only with engine rpm.

With a flat battery, the diode rectifier set will be under a larger load than usual, but the regulator part will actually be under less load.

It surprises me that there isn't a modern switching regulator available.

Steve

Well, coupled with the fact they are located out of the airflow, and generally use the frame as a heat soak... which may or may not still be effective....
Not to mention all the grime that they attract, the heat will soon kill off the rectifier.
Conjure has it, after many people saying "left my key on, so I jump started my bike, and now the battery won't charge properly"... Yes, could be the battery... BUT why are there big Caution panels in my hand book to say not to do it????

Okay, we all know better than the huge Japanese motorcycle manufacturer...... NOT!

**CookMySock** · 20th February 2010, 12:24

Originally Posted by quickbuck

Conjure has it, after many people saying "left my key on, so I jump started my bike, and now the battery won't charge properly"... Yes, could be the battery... BUT why are there big Caution panels in my hand book to say not to do it????

On that basis alone I am tempted to agree with you, but I still struggle with the logic. I have had exactly the same thing happen, as you say.

Steve

**quickbuck** · 20th February 2010, 12:32

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

On that basis alone I am tempted to agree with you, but I still struggle with the logic. I have had exactly the same thing happen, as you say.

Steve

Steve, the only logic there is when it comes to lecky stuff is this:

The system is filled with smoke. Let the smoke leak out of the system, and it no longer works.
This smoke can have an adverse reaction to metal too.... causing lots of sparks and generating even more smoke....

Hope this helps...

**CookMySock** · 20th February 2010, 12:55

Originally Posted by quickbuck

Steve, the only logic there is when it comes to lecky stuff is this:

The system is filled with smoke. Let the smoke leak out of the system, and it no longer works.
This smoke can have an adverse reaction to metal too.... causing lots of sparks and generating even more smoke....

Hehe, you must work for the air force!

Steve

**quickbuck** · 20th February 2010, 14:51

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Hehe, you must work for the air force!

Steve

Okay, what was your first clue?

Anyhow, remember This?

**wanpo** · 20th February 2010, 22:06

>.>
I was kinda jumping at shadows. One of the connectors wasn't fully on. Although I did have a play with the adjustment screw until it made the loudest noise.

One thing I did notice though, is that the bolt goes through the entire device, which meant if I over tightened the bolt connecting it to its perch, it would alter and muffle the horn noise.

All sorted now, although I don't tend to use it much on the road (good to have in case though)