SV 650 race bikes

[svs]

Heard they are using Hyabusa parts - I think their pistons.

If anyone is, then that is against the rules. Protest them. Rules explicitly states "All items not mentioned in the following articles must remain as originally produced by the manufacturers remain fitted and operational for that homologated model."

Read the whole lot if you want. http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...50_ProTwin.pdf The list of what you can actually change is pretty small and done so for cost/safety reasons

[crazyhorse]

If anyone is, then that is against the rules. Protest them. Rules explicitly states "All items not mentioned in the following articles must remain as originally produced by the manufacturers remain fitted and operational for that homologated model."

Read the whole lot if you want. http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...50_ProTwin.pdf The list of what you can actually change is pretty small and done so for cost/safety reasons

No need to shoot the messenger.... twas only what I had heard - thought about doing some mods to my SV prior to me selling it of course.

[discodan]

If anyone is, then that is against the rules. Protest them. Rules explicitly states "All items not mentioned in the following articles must remain as originally produced by the manufacturers remain fitted and operational for that homologated model."

Read the whole lot if you want. http://www.motorcyclingnz.co.nz/down...50_ProTwin.pdf The list of what you can actually change is pretty small and done so for cost/safety reasons

I am relatively new to the race scene but I have never heard of any protests being upheld. Protesting seems to be a taboo subject in NZ compared to overseas where the top three finishers may get thier bike checked regardless.

Obviously some measures would not be practical given the size of the sport here but the rules do seem a bit lax in my opinion.

[neil_cb125t]

Protests do happen - and can be upheld if found that a machine was not to spec - anyone can make one - all you have to do is pay the fee and away you go, forever hated by someone. There was at least one protest last year - but i don't know the details to be able to say" he did this" .. they are taken seriously and should always be...

just dont run new fairings on a posties bike - they make you bike go so much faster NOT but its not worth it..;-)

[JayRacer37]

Pro Twins is cluckin darn cheap racing - I'm running a 600 and a PT this year, and I know which one i'd rather be funding myself...to bad its the other way around.

The PT rules arn't bad - they're not fantastic by any strech of the imagination but as it stands you can get a bike from any of the manufacturers' (that make a 650 Twin) close to competitive in the field. And they are certainly the only medium-to-large bike class in the country you could buy a bike for under $10k and go win in. Want cheaper? Get a 250 Pro Lite bike. Racier? 125GP.

I reckon scrap F3 and make it PT only - that'll help get the numbers up

[crazy man]

Pro Twins is cluckin darn cheap racing - I'm running a 600 and a PT this year, and I know which one i'd rather be funding myself...to bad its the other way around.

The PT rules arn't bad - they're not fantastic by any strech of the imagination but as it stands you can get a bike from any of the manufacturers' (that make a 650 Twin) close to competitive in the field. And they are certainly the only medium-to-large bike class in the country you could buy a bike for under $10k and go win in. Want cheaper? Get a 250 Pro Lite bike. Racier? 125GP.

I reckon scrap F3 and make it PT only - that'll help get the numbers up

that all good when you get sponserd a bike lol

[squarewheels]

Pro Twins is cluckin darn cheap racing - I'm running a 600 and a PT this year, and I know which one i'd rather be funding myself...to bad its the other way around.

The PT rules arn't bad - they're not fantastic by any strech of the imagination but as it stands you can get a bike from any of the manufacturers' (that make a 650 Twin) close to competitive in the field. And they are certainly the only medium-to-large bike class in the country you could buy a bike for under $10k and go win in. Want cheaper? Get a 250 Pro Lite bike. Racier? 125GP.

I reckon scrap F3 and make it PT only - that'll help get the numbers up

that all good when you get sponserd a bike lol

First "crazy man" can I say, I don't know Jay at all but good on him it's good to see a racer of his class racing pro twins. It can only help to improve the class and I dear say he has worked extremely hard and deserves the ride.

Now let me put my two cent's worth forward, not that I have a lot of experience or credentials to comment compared to others that have added their comments. Also most people that has contributed to this thread have some valid points.
My back ground I spent a season racing a ss150 in the pacific series at Taupo had a blast, thanks chappy for some great racing. I'm 95kg and 6 foot 3 but still had a ball . Since then I haven't raced, life got in the way. So with a lot of work, hard saving and not much else I scraped together enough to buy a bike with a limited budget. Spending a fair amount of time and bugging many people, I made the decision to purchase a pro twin race bike .
Yes Pro twins could have remained a stock class and certainly I was on that side of the argument. But what I see now is a class with limited mods that is still cheap to run. Guy's that I talked to, some who finished in the top 3 if not front of their class were doing so on tyres 5-6 race meetings old, in my mind thats cheap racing. I think a lot can be said for rider skill over bike.
What I like is that for under 10K I have a bike that I can race, clean and put back in the shed ready for the next race, as long as I don't go cross country and is relatively cheap to run, compared to the fun that can be had.
When I was looking to purchase a bike I noticed a fair few pro twins for sale well set up for under 10K, another thing of the subject I noticed was at the three South Island there were more pro twin bikes in the "clubmans " class than "F3 Pro Twins", so I assume that there plenty of bikes out there already.

Cheers

[JayRacer37]

that all good when you get sponserd a bike lol

Yeah, but it's still a cheap class to buy a bike for or build one up - and i'm still running the bike too.

First "crazy man" can I say, I don't know Jay at all but good on him it's good to see a racer of his class racing pro twins. It can only help to improve the class and I dear say he has worked extremely hard and deserves the ride.

Now let me put my two cent's worth forward, not that I have a lot of experience or credentials to comment compared to others that have added their comments. Also most people that has contributed to this thread have some valid points.
My back ground I spent a season racing a ss150 in the pacific series at Taupo had a blast, thanks chappy for some great racing. I'm 95kg and 6 foot 3 but still had a ball . Since then I haven't raced, life got in the way. So with a lot of work, hard saving and not much else I scraped together enough to buy a bike with a limited budget. Spending a fair amount of time and bugging many people, I made the decision to purchase a pro twin race bike .
Yes Pro twins could have remained a stock class and certainly I was on that side of the argument. But what I see now is a class with limited mods that is still cheap to run. Guy's that I talked to, some who finished in the top 3 if not front of their class were doing so on tyres 5-6 race meetings old, in my mind thats cheap racing. I think a lot can be said for rider skill over bike.
What I like is that for under 10K I have a bike that I can race, clean and put back in the shed ready for the next race, as long as I don't go cross country and is relatively cheap to run, compared to the fun that can be had.
When I was looking to purchase a bike I noticed a fair few pro twins for sale well set up for under 10K, another thing of the subject I noticed was at the three South Island there were more pro twin bikes in the "clubmans " class than "F3 Pro Twins", so I assume that there plenty of bikes out there already.

Cheers

Wot he sed! 650PT definitly cheaper to get compeditive in than F3...