Picked on by cops

[p.dath]

Yep standard practice. They would've even known who the registered owner is before they pulled him over and when the WOF expires. Stolen vehicles often aren't reported stolen until hours after being taken so good on them for being proactive. It's unfortunate you see this "doing their job" as some sort of personal attack on you and your family. Yes it may offend you as a law abiding citizen being mistaken for a criminal but you need to consider the bigger picture.

Ever heard of the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty? A founding principle of our justice system? How was this gentleman given this right? He was assumed guilty until they could establish he was innocent.

The big picture - civil liberties. I want mine. You can surrender yours if you want.

[98tls]

funny thing is he used to be a cop

So his take on this is?Or still to shaken up after being looked up and down to speak.

[BoristheBiter]

Who said the same make and model had been stolen recently - and if so, they could easily verify it by checking the rego plate. No need to actually pull someone over "just in case". No need to look for crimes that don't exist by impacting law abiding individuals.



I have insurance, and I accept risk as part of ownership. My prior experience with the Police have shown them less than useful. Unless its a violent crime or of another serious nature you shouldn't really expect them to help you. Hell, you'll be lucky if you get anything more than an invitation to visit the local station and file a report.

I wouldn't even bother filing a report with the Police next time if it wasn't for the fact that the insurance company insists on it. Still, helps prevent insurance fraud and helps someone gather statistics.

Wow, never knew you would say that.
Under the land transport act you can be pulled over for any reason what so ever.

[p.dath]

Hope your bike gets nicked and no one does anything about it.

You know, I don't think I would even complain. It's an opportunityt to try out more bikes, and get something new.

I accept there are risks involved with owning capital assets. That's just a normal society. As I said, I'll keep my civil liberties. You can surrender yours if you want to live in the hope that the Police might once in your life recover an asset back for you in a workable condition.

Why stop there? Why don't we just pull over everyone, constantly? It'll be effective. Imagine how many additional stolen vehicles they recover. How many additional crimes will be stopped.

Or why don't we just return to founding principles, innocent to proven guilty. If you haven't done a crime, then there is no reason for the Police to be intervening in your life.

[Big Dave]

>>You know, I don't think I would even complain.<<

It bites you on the arse when the insurance premium on the replacement comes in.

[mattian]

Ever heard of the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty? A founding principle of our justice system? How was this gentleman given this right? He was assumed guilty until they could establish he was innocent.

The big picture - civil liberties. I want mine. You can surrender yours if you want.

My god man what planet do you live on. he was asked a few questions by police and his civil liberties have been trampled on?? lets take away the tasers and put flowers in their hair

[98tls]

Or why don't we just return to founding principles, innocent to proven guilty. If you haven't done a crime, then there is no reason for the Police to be intervening in your life.

No doubt you belive the 7 dwarfs stood round doing nothing whilst awaiting the prince to show up.

[KiWiP]

He was assumed guilty until they could establish he was innocent.

He was. He wasn't arrested, restrained or denied any of his rights as a NZ citizen. He was questioned. This is a normal part of police duties if something doesn't 'feel' right. The police have to make a judgement call. Not all of their hunches play out but when they do they benefit all of us. How many times do we hear of a car or bike being stopped and the driver/rider having illegal guns/P equipment or other on them.

The big picture - civil liberties. I want mine. You can surrender yours if you want.

You have them. Stop whining. You live in one of the most free, liberal countries in the world. Don't believe me, spend some time in China, the US, Britain to name a popular few and you will appreciate how free you are.

[Woodman]

My god man what planet do you live on. he was asked a few questions by police and his civil liberties have been trampled on?? lets take away the tasers and put flowers in their hair

And and let all the murderes and other violent offendors out of jail if they promise to be good.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You know, I don't think I would even complain.


As I said, I'll keep my civil liberties. You can surrender yours if you want to live in the hope that the Police might once in your life recover an asset back for you in a workable condition.

I'll hold you to that. Don't ever come on here and ball your eyes out if your bike gets nicked.

And I have never surrended anything to the police that they didn't earn!

[pc220]

Who said the same make and model had been stolen recently - and if so, they could easily verify it by checking the rego plate. No need to actually pull someone over "just in case". No need to look for crimes that don't exist by impacting law abiding individuals.



I have insurance, and I accept risk as part of ownership. My prior experience with the Police have shown them less than useful. Unless its a violent crime or of another serious nature you shouldn't really expect them to help you. Hell, you'll be lucky if you get anything more than an invitation to visit the local station and file a report.

I wouldn't even bother filing a report with the Police next time if it wasn't for the fact that the insurance company insists on it. Still, helps prevent insurance fraud and helps someone gather statistics.

WTF your pissing and moaning about the police doing their job and next thing your pissing and moaning that they dont do anything. Are you confused or just a bit simple.

[aderino4]

What a bunch of crybabies.. If you didn't do anything wrong then you won't have problem being stop by the police.

If you feel you're being picked on then you're either have something to hide or being overly sensitive. Harden up...

[Ixion]

Hm. I don't entirely approve of such conduct by the cops. Or, entirely disapprove. So much depends on their attitude. The last time it happened to me the cop handled it well, I didn't have a problem with it. The tome before that the cop failed the attitude test. So I reported him for not looking like a cop. He was scruffy and badly shaven; his uniform was dishevelled and sloppy. If you want to interrogate me because I don't look like a whatever you better either pass the attitude test or look like Dixon of Dock Green .

But the local copper pulled over some yon driving round in a Mercedes. Stolen and a bunch of other charges. Well done Dixon. It all depends. With good cops it's proactive policing with bad ones it's harrassment.

[Mom]

Yeah - I've been pulled over to see if I stole it a few times.

That's 'cos you are a right dodgy looking fella Best you make sure the bikes you "borrow" in future have current rego on them.

[Big Dave]

It usually occurred/s on my Thunderbird, which at the time was very similar to several of the Filthy Few's.
The interviews were quite funny really, once they established bona fides I end up interviewing them (just ask Nodman.)
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