Superbikes limited to superstock?

[gixerracer]

what are you on drugs were you not at minefeild last weekend?

Oh goody...I can start another "Keys in the jar" rumour.

Isn't that kinda what they did with the old Virgin R6 cup in yurrop?

Riders SBK cheapo championship:- Dyno first 3 bikes + 2 at random. Anyone >10bhp vs stock gets booted. Any bike <15Kg from stock gets booted. Simple, cheap.

Question:- How are they checking that traction control anti wheelspin type electronictrickery isn't being used?

gixerracer vs chop :- my money's on the chopmeister...but only at Puke and mansfeild short track.

[slowpoke]

Whatever the hell happens, it has to come in at club level first to make it viable. To the average club racer, talking about National's is like talking about something on Mars: they know it exists but will never go there. So as long as F1/F2 rules exist at Club level that's what most racers will adhere to. What would be the point of buying and setting up a competitive Open Stock bike for say $20k (start with wreck or pre loved bike) when you can buy a full monty Superbike that is a better Club and street racing bike for the same money or less?

The other issue that has to be co-ordinated with clubs is encouraging people to ride (insert F1/Superbike/Open Stock class here) in the first place. Vic Club did a great job with the help of LG last year, but take that away and we're straight back to the open class bikes being second class citizens again with lack of track time.

There needs to be some direction and co-ordination with the clubs, as these are the feeders into the National's, not the other way 'round.

[KS34]

To the average club racer, talking about National's is like talking about something on Mars: they know it exists but will never go there.

There needs to be some direction and co-ordination with the clubs, as these are the feeders into the National's, not the other way 'round.

Good point Spud, the only problem is the solution! There isnt enough racers out there that want to compete in the Nationals.

[codgyoleracer]

You got sick of all that from being left out, for being a ginga didn't ya bro?

The ginga thing just added to the flocking women problem bro .......... (its a sympathy thing i think)

[Drew]

The ginga thing just added to the flocking women problem bro .......... (its a sympathy thing i think)

Sympathy, admiration, whatever the reason it's a goal in my book.

[Wingnut]

Good point Spud, the only problem is the solution! There isnt enough racers out there that want to compete in the Nationals.

More like "There isn't enough racers out there that can afford to do the Nationals"

[scracha]

what are you on drugs were you not at minefeild last weekend?

He was having a bad day Craig. It's obvious he'd smoke ya.

[KS34]

He was having a bad day Craig. It's obvious he'd smoke ya.

I admire Sloans ability but you have gotta be taking the Piss

[KS34]

More like "There isn't enough racers out there that can afford to do the Nationals"

It comes down to priorities really, you can get a good bike ready to go for 11-12k, then its the usual tyres, travel etc for guys doing the winter series up here it wouldnt be a whole heap more.

[gixerracer]

O sorry I didnt realise well you just let me no when he is ready and I will get my sbk bike ready just to give me at least half a chance lol

He was having a bad day Craig. It's obvious he'd smoke ya.

[Pussy]

Another point, too, Craig....
You've had enough practice.... get the bloody title next year, ffs!

[slowpoke]

More like "There isn't enough racers out there that can afford to do the Nationals"

Nah, there are swags of riders turning up to the Tri-Series from all over the joint, and it's standing room only at a Vic Club event at Minefeild........yet few want to race at even their local National's event. Sure cost is always a factor for any event it's the nature of the sport, but to choose racing in the depths of Winter with no spectators or TV coverage (for sponsors) over a Summer's weekend with the best racers in the country dragging you along in front of TV and spectators doesn't make sense.

It's frustrating knowing how awesome the show could be if even half the usual suspects from a Vic Club (for example, same down south) event had fronted up. Vic Club have 2 day meetings that are well attended so cost is not the issue, it's more to do with the attitude of the average racer. Congrats to the racers who do front up and put on a great show all the same.

[Robert Taylor]

Take Mrs Codgeyoleracer shopping in Halcome, Glen!
I tried suggesting that to Ken (KS34) for Mrs KS34, too.

You're welcome!

Try Bennydale for shopping.....

[Robert Taylor]

Nah, there are swags of riders turning up to the Tri-Series from all over the joint, and it's standing room only at a Vic Club event at Minefeild........yet few want to race at even their local National's event. Sure cost is always a factor for any event it's the nature of the sport, but to choose racing in the depths of Winter with no spectators or TV coverage (for sponsors) over a Summer's weekend with the best racers in the country dragging you along in front of TV and spectators doesn't make sense.

It's frustrating knowing how awesome the show could be if even half the usual suspects from a Vic Club (for example, same down south) event had fronted up. Vic Club have 2 day meetings that are well attended so cost is not the issue, it's more to do with the attitude of the average racer. Congrats to the racers who do front up and put on a great show all the same.

Maybe in part its because the Nationals are being run at a time of the year when most sane people want to actually be on holiday? With the addition of the Tri Series and pre season testing prior it runs almost seamlessly into the Nationals and there is pretty much no spare time right through until March or so. Even the most hardcore racers and lovers of motorycle road racing would want some time out. Im saying that maybe the summer racing is getting a little too intense with current timetabling.

[wharfy]

Maybe in part its because the Nationals are being run at a time of the year when most sane people want to actually be on holiday? With the addition of the Tri Series and pre season testing prior it runs almost seamlessly into the Nationals and there is pretty much no spare time right through until March or so. Even the most hardcore racers and lovers of motorycle road racing would want some time out. Im saying that maybe the summer racing is getting a little too intense with current timetabling.

Yes it is a bit intense, when you have Paeroa, the week before and Sound of Thunder on the same weekend
If I can improve my average from crashing every second meeting I MIGHT be tempted to help make up the numbers at the North Island rounds next year (if I cam qualify)