Superbikes limited to superstock?

[Kevin G]

So how popular do you think it would be to look at something like 5-6 rounds over 7-8 months for the Nationals? It would be more expensive overall but easier on the body and cashflow.
Perhaps we can add this as a possible discussion topic at the road race workshop at the MNZ conference?

Would people be interested in utilising a freight service for bikes and bits if available assuming pickups in each major centre and delivery to the circuits on the Thursday night or Friday morning, all gear picked up on Sunday and dropped at the major centres again?
Everyone could be allocated a certain volume for bike and gear and we try and get a freight company on board at good rates or maybe as a sponsor (wishful thinking probably).
Then simply fly in, get together with a rental van for transport over the weekend, (think of the van racing as well, lots of fun) race ya bikes and fly home.

Just thoughts

Kevin Goddard
MNZ ON Road Board Member.

[Robert Taylor]

So how popular do you think it would be to look at something like 5-6 rounds over 7-8 months for the Nationals? It would be more expensive overall but easier on the body and cashflow.
Perhaps we can add this as a possible discussion topic at the road race workshop at the MNZ conference?

Would people be interested in utilising a freight service for bikes and bits if available assuming pickups in each major centre and delivery to the circuits on the Thursday night or Friday morning, all gear picked up on Sunday and dropped at the major centres again?
Everyone could be allocated a certain volume for bike and gear and we try and get a freight company on board at good rates or maybe as a sponsor (wishful thinking probably).
Then simply fly in, get together with a rental van for transport over the weekend, (think of the van racing as well, lots of fun) race ya bikes and fly home.

Just thoughts

Kevin Goddard
MNZ ON Road Board Member.

Its very difficult to please everyone but those ideas have merit worthy of discussion. The road race Nationals also have to be very mindful of support infrastructure including the industry from which a lot of the money for people to go racing comes from, either directly or indirectly.

[Kevin G]

I see a few comments about what is going on in Aus re control tyres etc.
Having seen the supp regs re the control tyre for super bikes, it is a Dunlop D211 and they cost the riders $595 AUD a set. They are allowed 4 sets per weekend That's $780 in our paso per set.
Entry fees SBK $495 plus $295 for a garage, plus $225 for the practice day, that's NZ$ 1,335!!
And then the travel, try driving to Perth from Brisbane 4,400 k's one way!
So is it better over the Tassie?

[Kevin G]

Its very difficult to please everyone but those ideas have merit worthy of discussion. The road race Nationals also have to be very mindful of support infrastructure including the industry from which a lot of the money for people to go racing comes from, either directly or indirectly.

Hi Robert. Yes you are right. So as a part of the industry that supports the road racing would this be better worse or makes no difference? I imagine it is worse as it is probably is more cost effective to spend three weeks in the south rather than make three seperate trips. Your trailer could always be transported in the big trucks as well.

[jellywrestler]

you pull your key out of a hat

Being from Feilding I believe there's several pastimes involving pulling a key out of a hat, and have fresh rubber on too...

[jellywrestler]

So how popular do you think it would be to look at something like 5-6 rounds over 7-8 months for the Nationals? It would be more expensive overall but easier on the body and cashflow.
Perhaps we can add this as a possible discussion topic at the road race workshop at the MNZ conference?

Everyone could be allocated a certain volume for bike and gear and we try and get a freight company on board at good rates or maybe as a sponsor (wishful thinking probably).
Then simply fly in, get together with a rental van for transport over the weekend, (think of the van racing as well, lots of fun) race ya bikes and fly home.

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the problem with having the nationals spread acroos months pretty well excludes International competitors who give us all a benchmark to work to and help draw in the crowd. As for bulk shipping riders are spread all over the countryside and logistically theres a lot of hassle getting bikes to and from the transport etc. Also that leaves competitors without handy transport at the track.
Two bikes in a van, you've got your lot sorted, and maybe a second bike and your transport around the countryside too

[Nonbeliever]

Maybe in part its because the Nationals are being run at a time of the year when most sane people want to actually be on holiday?

Id run the nats in march / april as to avoid this issue also the weather is more settled.
As for other events, stiff shit the nats is the premier series.

[Billy]

Jeez Spyda,Get with the program will ya,Thats Ashurst where they do the key swapping thing,In Feilding you just wait for the hubby to finish and your in.

I think the biggest problem this year has been MNZ noy using comonsense when issueing permits,I counted 13 roadrace meetings from October 24 til now,If you want guys to do their local National round,Then you need too limit their options.Spreading it over 6 months or arranging a transporter wont change a thing

[Rcktfsh]

Condensing the 3 south island rounds into 2 weeks in jan would make entering easier for allot of riders, ie running teretonga on a wed. The amount of daylight down there at that time of year means you would be safe light wise to run until 8.30 and correct me if i'm wrong but noise at that hour isn't an issue at that track. With an earlyish start the programme should be able to be fitted into 1 day. Big ask for the volunteers to take a day off work but southlanders are nothing if not accommodating. Two weeks away from work instead of 3 is pretty attractive.It could also be good for spectators with a large after work turnout helped if the feature races are staged later in the day. From the south islanders point off view i'm sure they'd also be keen on back to back rounds in the north rather than having to make two trips and if a organizing club took it on why not throw in a midweek twilight round at taupo with the support class dropped so as to reduce the programme and time needed.

[CHOPPA]

I see a few comments about what is going on in Aus re control tyres etc.
Having seen the supp regs re the control tyre for super bikes, it is a Dunlop D211 and they cost the riders $595 AUD a set. They are allowed 4 sets per weekend That's $780 in our paso per set.
Entry fees SBK $495 plus $295 for a garage, plus $225 for the practice day, that's NZ$ 1,335!!
And then the travel, try driving to Perth from Brisbane 4,400 k's one way!
So is it better over the Tassie?

They get prize money and tv coverage. WHeres the TV coverage from Ruapuna!! I was told that the bill wasnt paid thats why it wasnt shown????

[Nonbeliever]

Condensing the 3 south island rounds into 2 weeks in jan would make entering easier for allot of riders.

nope, three weekends it is

[k14]

Condensing the 3 south island rounds into 2 weeks in jan would make entering easier for allot of riders, ie running teretonga on a wed. The amount of daylight down there at that time of year means you would be safe light wise to run until 8.30 and correct me if i'm wrong but noise at that hour isn't an issue at that track. With an earlyish start the programme should be able to be fitted into 1 day. Big ask for the volunteers to take a day off work but southlanders are nothing if not accommodating. Two weeks away from work instead of 3 is pretty attractive.It could also be good for spectators with a large after work turnout helped if the feature races are staged later in the day. From the south islanders point off view i'm sure they'd also be keen on back to back rounds in the north rather than having to make two trips and if a organizing club took it on why not throw in a midweek twilight round at taupo with the support class dropped so as to reduce the programme and time needed.

Wouldn't work, just too many issues and from a competitors point of view I think it is a bit dumb (sorry). Only option (and what I think really should be looked at) is to drop a round and run only 2 in south island. Ruapuna would have to be there so that leaves a flip of a coin between levels and teretonga. Probably lean towards teretonga seeing as SMCC always put on a good weekend and give motorcycling canterbury a break from having to run 2 rounds! Other option would be to have the burt munro weekend a championship round and still have the other two in january over two weekends. Yes does mean two trips down but spaced apart by around 2 months. Another option could be to run two rounds pre christmas in north island and two in january in south.

[CHOPPA]

what are you on drugs were you not at minefeild last weekend?

Honda paid me to let you guys beat me! I havnt got my cheque from them for Hampton Downs so i guess you guys are on your own for R5?

Theres gotta be some sorta wager we can put on it?

[gixerracer]

OK I bet you that I beat you!

Honda paid me to let you guys beat me! I havnt got my cheque from them for Hampton Downs so i guess you guys are on your own for R5?

Theres gotta be some sorta wager we can put on it?

[gixerracer]

The racing is way better over the ditch but is also way more expensive people here dont realise how cheap racing at national level in NZ is. As sloan pointed out they do get good prize money and TV coverage so this does make getting sponsorship a bit easier .

I see a few comments about what is going on in Aus re control tyres etc.
Having seen the supp regs re the control tyre for super bikes, it is a Dunlop D211 and they cost the riders $595 AUD a set. They are allowed 4 sets per weekend That's $780 in our paso per set.
Entry fees SBK $495 plus $295 for a garage, plus $225 for the practice day, that's NZ$ 1,335!!
And then the travel, try driving to Perth from Brisbane 4,400 k's one way!
So is it better over the Tassie?