Superbikes limited to superstock?

**Kickaha** · 8th March 2010, 17:50

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

the problem with having the nationals spread acroos months pretty well excludes International competitors who give us all a benchmark to work to and help draw in the crowd.

Realistically though how many international competitors do we get and how many people come because of that?

**Drew** · 8th March 2010, 17:55

Originally Posted by Nonbeliever

As for other events, stiff shit the nats is the premier series.

The nats are meant to be the premier event, just doesn't get as many entrants. So who should it be stiff shit for the way things are at the moment?

**Drew** · 8th March 2010, 17:58

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Theres gotta be some sorta wager we can put on it?

Loser wears a dress to every round of the nats next year. Which must be worn the whole time except for twenty minutes either side of riding.

**woodyracer** · 8th March 2010, 18:09

Originally Posted by gixerracer

The racing is way better over the ditch but is also way more expensive people here dont realise how cheap racing at national level in NZ is. As sloan pointed out they do get good prize money and TV coverage so this does make getting sponsorship a bit easier .

Fuck its funny when new zealands best superbike riders resort to bitching at each other on KB........ahahha continue as you were....

**jellywrestler** · 8th March 2010, 18:36

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Realistically though how many international competitors do we get and how many people come because of that?

Any sport that has international competitors tends to draw out the public more, whether or not they are good or not peoples perception that there's international competitors, "it must be better", does I'm sure lure a few to the track.
On top of this its a great chance to see where you fit outisde of NZ, or at least some sort of guideline and there have been a number of friendships with visitors that have led to rides in their countries.
Its still a factor to toss into this discussion

**Kickaha** · 8th March 2010, 19:05

Originally Posted by woodyracer

Fuck its funny when new zealands best superbike riders resort to bitching at each other on KB........ahahha continue as you were....

NZs best? it's only gixxerracer

**woodyracer** · 8th March 2010, 19:36

Originally Posted by Kickaha

NZs best? it's only gixxerracer

yea well gixxeracer does no how to ride the little honda.....

**Drew** · 8th March 2010, 19:39

Originally Posted by woodyracer

Fuck its funny when new zealands best superbike riders resort to bitching at each other on KB........ahahha continue as you were....

I haven't seen any bitching.

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

Any sport that has international competitors tends to draw out the public more, whether or not they are good or not peoples perception that there's international competitors, "it must be better", does I'm sure lure a few to the track.
On top of this its a great chance to see where you fit outisde of NZ, or at least some sort of guideline and there have been a number of friendships with visitors that have led to rides in their countries.
Its still a factor to toss into this discussion

Bugden is the current New Zealand champ. Check out his best result in world super stock, international riders or not, the sport has to grow here before we'll know where anyone fits in overseas.

**woodyracer** · 8th March 2010, 19:42

Originally Posted by Drew

I haven't seen any bitching.

Bugden is the current New Zealand champ. Check out his best result in world super stock, international riders or not, the sport has to grow here before we'll know where anyone fits in overseas.

Id say raciing is big enough.......there is people i can see who will be racign overseas'...they jsut need time..

**sosman** · 8th March 2010, 19:57

Trackdays is where it's at!....Mu haha!

**Drew** · 8th March 2010, 19:58

Originally Posted by woodyracer

Id say raciing is big enough.......there is people i can see who will be racign overseas'...they jsut need time..

Let's talk Sketchy Glen then shall we. He's fuckin amazing on a bike. More tallent in his little finger than I've got in my entire body. How long would you like to give him in New Zealand before he's at an international level? Answer is, get out as soon as possible Glen. Go live over seas and come home when you can be labeled a hasbeen. Own the supersport title here and go develope as a rider where the talent pool will actually push you to be the best, because not enough gifted people show up at our races.

Same for Sam Love, and any other young guys who are clearly gifted.

**woodyracer** · 8th March 2010, 20:00

Originally Posted by Drew

Let's talk Sketchy Glen then shall we. He's fuckin amazing on a bike. More tallent in his little finger than I've got in my entire body. How long would you like to give him in New Zealand before he's at an international level? Answer is, get out as soon as possible Glen. Go live over seas and come home when you can be labeled a hasbeen. Own the supersport title here and go develope as a rider where the talent pool will actually push you to be the best, because not enough gifted people show up at our races.

Same for Sam Love, and any other young guys who are clearly gifted.

dont go overboard with positivty........why you saying nick cole,karl morgan,james smith arnt talented??.......theres alot of talent in new zealand..there jsut isnt the money to get them overseas.....

**scracha** · 8th March 2010, 20:28

Originally Posted by drew

Loser wears a dress to every round of the nats next year. Which must be worn the whole time except for twenty minutes either side of riding.

We're back to the keys in the jar thing aren't we?

Originally Posted by woodyracer

dont go overboard with positivty........why you saying nick cole,karl morgan,james smith arnt talented??.......theres alot of talent in new zealand..there jsut isnt the money to get them overseas.....

Bullshit. For sure it's a huge gamble for a talented racer jacking in their job, selling their bike and farking off overseas but a plane ticket and camper van aint that expensive. Costs here to get into racing vs Europe are minimal. Hell, what with the hectic short summer programme and lower costs, we should be trying to attract young foreign riders HERE to make a name for themselves. If the nats here aren't trying to attract international riders then we'd be as well just jacking it in and sending our top riders to OZ or further afield. Spreading out the nats over a longer period of time is just stupid.

**gixerracer** · 8th March 2010, 20:29

PFFFTT Nick Cole and James Smith they got no talent Nicks to fat he shouldnt even be allowed to race a motorbike and as for james he is at the other end of scale he is that fuckn scrawny I dont even understand how he can stand up on them little chicken legs

Originally Posted by woodyracer

dont go overboard with positivty........why you saying nick cole,karl morgan,james smith arnt talented??.......theres alot of talent in new zealand..there jsut isnt the money to get them overseas.....

**gixerracer** · 8th March 2010, 20:32

na he all shit when was the last time he won a race that wasnt a street race????? 200fuckn6 and that was on a 6hundy he cant ride a super to save himself

Originally Posted by woodyracer

yea well gixxeracer does no how to ride the little honda.....