Superbikes limited to superstock?

[Rcktfsh]

Sounds gay.
*runs*

or delusional

[wharfy]

Seeing as how my 3 South island rnds in 2 weeks suggestions appears about as popular as pork dishes at a Bar Mitzvah what are peoples thoughts on dropping a South Island round so that it would only mean 2 weekends in a row down South in January followed by 2 weekends in a row up North in February therefore condensing the calender and shortening the time required away from work. With the supers & 600's currently having 2 races per round over 5 rounds adding up to a 10 race championship why not increase this to 3 races per round resulting in a 12 race championship over 4 rounds. With the resurgence in the street stock class this should also be standardised as the support class over the championship, long term this is likely to feed more riders into the feature classes than running clubmans or posties as support. If 3 races are run for the feature classes this could place extra pressure on the days timetable so support may need to be pared back to 2 races a meeting or easier still just get drop that group of bickering gay bar loitering racers known as sidecars. Bringing the Bert Munroe into the calender would be a backward step in that it would require a stand alone trip to Invers, the weather is dubious at best at that time of year and thirdly the event has a special character with the hill climb, beach races, teretonga then street race, this format would require altering if a 2 day nat round where to be incorperated.

Sounds OK to me, (but keep the sidecars ) time off work is a "biggie" for a lot of people. If there were more races would we need a support class ? I thought they were there to fill in spare time.

[Rcktfsh]

Street stock is where the future F3/600 and superbike riders will come from and have also provided the biggest fields when they have been included this year so I'm very much in favour of including them.

[Billy]

Yip,Streetstock is a must,As youve pointed out its a feeder class,In fact Ive heard it mentioned that possibly F3 be dropped as a national championship as its not a feeder class to anywhere

[Rcktfsh]

Yip,Streetstock is a must,As youve pointed out its a feeder class,In fact Ive heard it mentioned that possibly F3 be dropped as a national championship as its not a feeder class to anywhere

I hope not, the racing at the front has been awesome this season over the 3 races at manfeild there was never more than a bike length between Glen & Jason at the flag fall. This class also allows tuners allot of freedom when building up bikes keeping alive the no8 wire ethos which are important to the sport.

[codgyoleracer]

Yip,Streetstock is a must,As youve pointed out its a feeder class,In fact Ive heard it mentioned that possibly F3 be dropped as a national championship as its not a feeder class to anywhere

HaHa - you been sniffing that acetone to much Billy, QUOTE : "Ive heard it mentioned" is pretty rock solid stuff mate.......... :-)

[Billy]

Yeah and isocyanate and styrene and blah blah blah,All I said was Id heard it mentioned,Not that it was definitely happening,But think about the frontrunners in that class and where they are heading,Willit be too superbike or 600 SP or are they settled where they are,Seems too me it would be a seamless progression from Pro-lite 250 to Pro Twins and on to a 600 or superbike from there.Its just a suggestion not a rule change

[slowpoke]

With the resurgence in the street stock class this should also be standardised as the support class over the championship, long term this is likely to feed more riders into the feature classes than running clubmans or posties as support.

Not so keen on this idea. Absolutely they are the feeder class at club level but I don't think they make great viewing for spectators at what are supposed to be showcase National events. As a spectator I would want to see good lookin' bikes, makin' lotsa nice noises at an impressive speed. No offence meant, they are a great intro, but I'm not sure they're suited to what is the biggest stage for road racing in NZ. We are struggling to get good crowds at our events and I think we need to be mindful of keeping people "on the hook" if/when they do show up.

[Billy]

Assuming MNZ and the 2 distributors that are backing the new Pro lites class get their way and we get full feilds of up to 20 bikes (and believe me its heading that way already)Are you saying its better too watch the same 3 bikes battle it out at every round or would it be more entertaining too see the lead swapping every corner or 2 as was witnessed this year with streetstock with no less than 4 different race winners over 4 rounds ??

The first signof insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result.The time for change is now and lets hope the new roadrace commission can see that

[slowpoke]

I dunno mate, I can see where you are coming from, and these youngsters could well be the future of the sport, if they aren't bankrupt before they're 20 from trying to run a Nat's campaign, lol.

Maybe we need to be talking to Joe Public about what they want/like to see? Do we even care? Are the Nat's about showcasing our sport to the public, generating interest and growing the sport that way, or is it about growing the sport from youngsters and ignoring how it looks from the outside? If the National's are about comparing the most talented riders from throughout the country is it appropriate that we include a class that is at what is basically the first rung of competition? Are we trying to attract more spectators or more riders?

Lotsa questions but hopefully MNZ and our stellar new road racing committee will have a master plan that will grow the sport.....and as you say, hopefully it is something new not just more of the same.

[woodyracer]

I dunno mate, I can see where you are coming from, and these youngsters could well be the future of the sport, if they aren't bankrupt before they're 20 from trying to run a Nat's campaign, lol.

Maybe we need to be talking to Joe Public about what they want/like to see? Do we even care? Are the Nat's about showcasing our sport to the public, generating interest and growing the sport that way, or is it about growing the sport from youngsters and ignoring how it looks from the outside? If the National's are about comparing the most talented riders from throughout the country is it appropriate that we include a class that is at what is basically the first rung of competition? Are we trying to attract more spectators or more riders?

Lotsa questions but hopefully MNZ and our stellar new road racing committee will have a master plan that will grow the sport.....and as you say, hopefully it is something new not just more of the same.

i disagree, the streetstock class is great to watch and race in, at the nats it was huge.....how do you expect superbike riders to keep coming if your not willing to give streetstock riders a fair chance?

[gixerracer]

Its on like donkey kong hahahahahaha

Im starting to feel a little un easy about this last meeting

[gixerracer]

robert taylor as been trying to get me to swallow for ages but i dont care how mch nice shit he says im just not going to do it so just give it a rest robert please

[Robert Taylor]

robert taylor as been trying to get me to swallow for ages but i dont care how mch nice shit he says im just not going to do it so just give it a rest robert please

No your teeth arent pretty enough boy......

[suzuki21]

The first signof insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result.The time for change is now and lets hope the new roadrace commission can see that

The F3 class is turning into either post classic 250's, 400's or modified twins. I thought the stock racing was quite good which suprised me. Re: superbike, the public wont give a shit if bikes are doing 6's or 8's at Manfield it will still be exciting to watch. A lot of people watch NZV8's - they arent supercars but they look like it, make a noise, and have close racing.