Police breath testing

[jellywrestler]

Because we know drinking and driving doesn't mix... and isn't it a rule of thumb that "if in doubt leave it out?" ......we don't need a breath test machine or cops on the side of the road to tell us that... we need to take responsibility for our own actions... this rests wholly and absolutely on our own shoulders.

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By providing a breath testing service, with suitable quality gear the law enforcement will see that you are trying to be pro-active in this area.

I use a top quality tester, not for when I'm having a beer and wanting to drive/ride, I know what my limit is here, but for the morning after as you may feel fine but still be over the limit, then again you may still feel 'like the north end of a south bound cow' and still be under the limit. Then personal responsibility is up to you.
Take a look at the next rally that this service is offered, its well attended so people are taking note.
If they do choose to offer the service, people need to be aware that it is ONLY AND INDICATION and suitable indemnities are on show.
As for the comments that 'you could offer the service and tell someone they're under; they drive off down the road and crash and you're blamed' What a load of trash, the cops automatically let people drive off that are under and they have the same issues if there's a problem afterwards.
This is like not wearing a seat belt cause one in 10,000 people who crash are killed by their belt.
We are fortunate in this age to be able to obtain personal good quality breath testing gear so why not use it????
Hell I'm sure if the club were to talk to the right people thay could lease the gear the OMCC use for the Brass Monkey at a good price.

[scumdog]

except its impossiable to tell excatly what your blood alcohol level is isnt it.

Oh the Police have ways - but by then it's too late.

FYI: IF you do get processed for EBA (DIC) and you're given the option of a blood sample?

All I can say is: you have a one chance in a thousand that you blood sample will work out lower than the breath one.

Your only hope is that Martians steal the blood sample.

[Coldrider]

The Brass Monkey used to get hammered by breath test cops, not uncommon up north, plan the weekend around it is the way to go if there is confusion between motorcycles and pissing up. Friday night binge drink, Saturday night take it easy.

[pc220]

SAdly personal responsibility has been hidden under the same rock as respect and common sense. Zero tolerance to drink driving/riding is the only acceptable solution.

[ukusa]

It would have been nice if they could have tested before you got on your bike, but I guess that's not really their job and therefore as has been said personal responsibility etc etc.

The problem with personal responsibility is that you can feel as good as gold & feel perfectly ok to drive/ride, but the unknown factor is what the breath test machine says. How long are you supposed to stay after drinking heavily? Are there guidelines for the number of hours based on the number of drinks? I don't think so.
Should we just all just be tea totallers, or all just smoke dope & not drink? Never going to happen!
Without the use of a pre ride test, the hard thing is to guess what to do, do I stay behind an extra 2 hours?, maybe 4 or 6. Maybe just stay another whole day?
As it was I left by the back gate (along with alot of others) where there was no checkpoint. I felt fine by the time I left, but there was no way in hell I was going to risk leaving the other way even if I did feel fine. It's too much of an unknown factor.
As for the 5 who apparently got caught, they obviously knew there was a checkpoint outside the gate, but also must have honestly believed they were under the limit at that time, otherwise they would have waited. Maybe everyone should have waited until about mid day to leave, would have meant a long day for the cops

[grusomhat]

How long are you supposed to stay after drinking heavily? Are there guidelines for the number of hours based on the number of drinks? I don't think so.

Um, one standard drink and hour sound familar?

Seems to me like a good guide. 10 standards? Wait 10 hours before driving.

[Usarka]

maybe stop for some breakfast and wait a while before riding

So we have all these bikers taking their time and munching food...... according to the latest advertising that's grounds for a compulsory drug test sonny.

[awayatc]

Um, one standard drink and hour sound familar?

Seems to me like a good guide. 10 standards? Wait 10 hours before driving.

Can't even count my feet after a good night out......

[doc]

Ferk dont you ppl have lawns to mow in the weekends or something ? Time for you ppl to think about moving north. We are more responsible up here. Less rallies = less chance of getting caught. Cmon its pretty simple really. Ive met some of those southernerners, They are really a bad influence

[ukusa]

Um, one standard drink and hour sound familar?

Seems to me like a good guide. 10 standards? Wait 10 hours before driving.

Bollocks. One standard drink (eg a stubby of beer) would not put an average sized man over the limit, let alone require him to wait an hour before driving. As for 10 standards, it would all depend on how long those 10 drinks were drunk over. If I demolished them in a couple of hours, yeah I would say maybe a few hours before driving. If I drunk them over say 10 hours, I would almost tend to think I would still be under the legal limit. Problem is, no foolproof test other than the one where you risk a fine & loss of licence.

[scumdog]

As for the 5 who apparently got caught, they obviously knew there was a checkpoint outside the gate, but also must have honestly believed they were under the limit at that time, otherwise they would have waited. Maybe everyone should have waited until about mid day to leave, would have meant a long day for the cops

Or maybe the booze clouded their judgement?

And the cops would have not worried if they had a long and possibly 'unproductive' day, at the end of the day if it kept a few drunks off the road they would have been happy - I know I would have.

PS: Shitloads of drunk drivers who end up in court 'honestly believed they were under the limit' too....

[98tls]

Or maybe the booze clouded their judgement?

And the cops would have not worried if they had a long and possibly 'unproductive' day, at the end of the day if it kept a few drunks off the road they would have been happy - I know I would have.

PS: Shitloads of drunk drivers who end up in court 'honestly believed they were under the limit' too....

Or as i posted earlier they were simply thick buggersLets call a spade a spade eh.Fwiw they provided some entertainment for those of us (about 15 or so) that ended up having a graze and snooze under the willow tree across the road,at one stage one of the watchers said "you dumb fuck" when watching his mate exit the gate to try his luck,sure enough helmet off and bike parked up he was done.Taking candy from a baby springs to mind.

[kwaka_crasher]

I felt fine by the time I left, but there was no way in hell I was going to risk leaving the other way even if I did feel fine. It's too much of an unknown factor.

How dare you use your own personal good judgement to determine any imparment! Next you'll be wanting to vote!

[Berries]

Time for you ppl to think about moving north. We are more responsible up here.

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[Fatjim]

And if a cop tells someone they are ok to drive at the venue and said person takes off and crashes & dies shortly there after and a later blood test shows he's over the limit who is that shit going to land on? I know who the media and his family will be blaming...

Lets be logical at least. There's no difference to a breath test at a check point to one before you get on a bike/in your car. You could later be just as over the limit. The argument does not hold water.

I'd say it would be alot worse to tell a few hundred people they are ok to drive as a result of what will be at the time an inaccurate reading resulting in many going on to ride and be over the limit or close enough to it to be a danger. How many of them will also think that because they blew under that means they are ok to drive regardless of how pissed they actually feel?

If I blew under at a checkpoint five minutes after skulling a bottle of Cpt Morgan, am I any less DIC in 20 minutes time than if a copper happened to let me blow in the bag at the pub?