Blipping, tell me why I am wrong

[jellywrestler]

blip I do blip. I've been trying not blip blip blip Please explain to me why I am wrong.

cool some friday night entertainment before my drug dealer gets here!!!

[kwaka_crasher]

You say it is possible not to blip, but don't say why it is wrong to blip, or why you don't do it. Any chance you have exceptional bike handling skills that my be mitigating whatever the reason is why you have chosen not to blip?

He's simply using the clutch lever as a defacto slipper type clutch with variable rates (controlled by lever pressure).

I don't fry clutches...

Nor would they actually even be left until they're slipping from excessive wear so your theory on clutch life supported by your anecdotal evidence doesn't hold true.

If you're riding the clutch under any circumstances it's going to wear faster. There is no two ways about it.

[Ocean1]

Your the first post in 27 replies not pro-blipping, so your way out in the minority ...

Well I'll just fuck your day completely then. I do both. I always blip on downshifts, I also feather the clutch. In the higher revs I do it a lot.

Buells have huge engine braking, so having braked to somewhere close to the right speed for a corner and shifted down as you’re dropping into it the last thing you want to do is just dump the clutch, revs nicely matched or not. Typically the clutch isn't fully out until I'm rolling on the gas again.

Not sure where I learned it, (probably in the mud hereabouts) but I did the slippy clutch thing going into corners well before I owned a Buell. Once you’ve sussed it I think it’s a useful trick for any bike in some situations.

[Smifffy]

At seems to me that you have now changed definitions of blipping. For any meaningful discussion it is of course necessary to define one's terms. The blipping you seem to be talking about now, is, as you suggest, increasing the engine revs sufficiently to prevent rear wheel lock up. If I remember the other blipping thread correctly, you were all about mashing the gears down as far as possible in order to take a corner at elevated revs (I wanted to say maximum revs, but I don't want to confuse us all with discussions about redline). IIRC your reason for doing this was to be able to exit the corner under maximum power delivery.

[sugilite:Me]

You say it is possible not to blip, but don't say why it is wrong to blip, or why you don't do it. Any chance you have exceptional bike handling skills that my be mitigating whatever the reason is why you have chosen not to blip?

Your the first post in 27 replies not pro-blipping, so your way out in the minority ...

Pretty much the vast majority of riders are pro blipping. It is confirming my original beliefs (that blipping down is the right thing to be doing).

I do not view blipping as being 'wrong', I just view it as technically unnecessary. I do get the aural pleasures some riders derive from blipping, so power to the blippers, I'm just not one of them.

I do not believe bike handling skills come into it that much, it is practiced behavior in mechanical operation. (the clutch) Though doing it all while cranked over and being hard on the brakes ala racetrack conditions is something else again.

On the road, I attempt to ride as smooth and economically as possible, that's what I enjoy, so thats my personal reason for not blipping. In addition, for me.. any small increase in clutch life is not good enough a reason to convert me to a blipper

He's simply using the clutch lever as a defacto slipper type clutch with variable rates (controlled by lever pressure).



Nor would they actually even be left until they're slipping from excessive wear so your theory on clutch life supported by your anecdotal evidence doesn't hold true.

If you're riding the clutch under any circumstances it's going to wear faster. There is no two ways about it.

Wow, I just thought I said I did not fry clutches, I did not realize I'd presented a theory on clutch life complete with evidence.

[crazyhorse]

Blip is it. I was taught to do it - you get a different result depending on the bike you ride. My V-twin loved it. I still blip on the GSXR, so yip! I blip! Bring on the blips

[scumdog]

Blipping in a car seems like it's not achieving anything.

Some wankers in cars do it changing UP through the gear, WTF??

[dipshit]

Got into the habit of blipping from very early on. I couldn't imagine riding without doing it.

Watching vids of riders that don't blip makes me cringe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyjJ6RCy_CU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO8TuakquPQ

[CHOPPA]

blip and play with the clutch, you can feel how fast to let the clutch out and control it if it starts to slide. If im going real fast into a real slow corner ill just stomp through the gearbox then ezzz the clutch out if it starts to slide too much i squeeze the clutch a bit more bla bla

Its really handy to have a gear indicator so you dont accidentally change down to many gears.

Prob shouldnt have to ride like that on the road though

[CHOPPA]

Ever tried blipping without the clutch and changing down? Not really practical but if your board and riding with one hand and slowing down just as you touch the shifter give it a little blip in that neutral zone and the gear changes real smooth, if you miss you look like a dick cause the bike jumps haha

[sinfull]

Got into the habit of blipping from very early on. I couldn't imagine riding without doing it.

Watching vids of riders that don't blip gives me the cringe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyjJ6RCy_CU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO8TuakquPQ

I wonder why he did a little cross country in that first vid lol

[sinfull]

Ever tried blipping without the clutch and changing down? Not really practical but if your board and riding with one hand and slowing down just as you touch the shifter give it a little blip in that neutral zone and the gear changes real smooth, if you miss you look like a dick cause the bike jumps haha

Just as your going into the right in that last set of corners before pit str8 at taupo, never seem to have time to reach for the clutch there lol

[dipshit]

I wonder why he did a little cross country in that first vid lol

The rider looks very awkward entering corners when he has had to make a down change.

[Woodman]

Not sure if I blip or not? Will go for a ride and get back to yous.

[SPP]

Smooth is better, no need to over think that one. Why, because it feels right.

Ever watch good riders when they demonstrate technique? Notice how fluid their actions are? They squeeze not grab and twist not pull. Smooth.

Some people get smooth down shifts by feathering the clutch. Others “blip”. Some use either in different situations, and some do both at the same time!. I think that good clutch control would be a good skill to hone for many other reasons than being smooth on the gear change.

On a big twin with lots of engine compression I think I’d be more inclined to feather than blip but I’ll probably only know for sure when I get one.

I am a blipper… if my definitions of blipping are the same as everybody else. I blip two ways, but don’t think about which way to do it when I’m riding. It kind of just happens.

If blipping means...

1. pulling in the clutch
2. quickly blipping the throttle when the clutch is in
3. drop a gear
4. then release the clutch

Then I do that. Usually when I’m slowing down and am already off the throttle.


If blipping means...

1. slightly engaging the clutch but not releasing the throttle (so that the engine revs jump up to the rpm your want due to less load)
2. drop a gear
3. then as you release the clutch apply slightly more throttle so that when the clutch is fully disengaged the engine revs stay matched for the lower gear and the bike is still moving at the same speed

Then I do that too. From there I either get into the throttle to accelerate or back off the throttle to slow down. You need to be quick and smooth but the change down feels like how an automatic gearbox changes.

Not sure if these are good or bad. Do whatever feels right I guess.