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    Govt internet filter going live is sad day for NZ

    Is this the right thing to be doing, are you even worried about the secrecy surrounding this .

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1003/S00159.htm

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    I'm actually pretty fucked off.
    What exactly will they be filtering? Who gets to decide? Where will it end?

    NZ is looking less and less like a good place to live. Especially for internet-surfing bikers.
    Some people just can't seem to comprehend that they do not have the right to be unoffended in their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freedom-wedge View Post
    Is this the right thing to be doing, are you even worried about the secrecy surrounding this .

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1003/S00159.htm
    This has been trialled for some time. DIA claim that only sites containing child porn will be filtered, of course thats what the Aussies claimed, and they filtered child porn, legal porn, political opinion, and basically anything they wanted !

    Like Aussie, the NZ censor refuses to tell you what he is censoring, because while chid porn is the excuse, its really not the long term target.

    For those site he is happy to publicly censor, you will get a web page informing you that the page you are visiting has bee censored. But for the others, you will just get a 404 error.

    This is just another step down the censorship path, neatly avoiding the public debate hat occured in Aussie when they did it.

    Its easy to avoid. Proxy servers abound, and are easy to set up, plus the US government is going to provide real fast ones for non US citizens to bypass censorship.

    And not all ISPs are going to censor. Dump your existing internet provider, citing the fact you pay for the internet, not just the DIAs version of it. Change to Orcon, or another non censoring ISP and tell them why as well.
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    Such is the inevitable way of things. It wouldn't surprise me that one day they will be implanting microchip barcodes (like international passport/ID tags) in out forearms to keep tabs on us all. Imagine if that had GPS they could watch us all speed about like fireflies.

    The Privacy Act and Human Rights Act will limit any invasion of privacy unless you are a threat to national security. Then they need warrants to bug you anyway.

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    Kiddie porn aye. So they're just targeting mac users?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackshear View Post
    I'm actually pretty fucked off.
    What exactly will they be filtering? Who gets to decide? Where will it end?

    NZ is looking less and less like a good place to live. Especially for internet-surfing bikers.
    fuck yeh, forget the lower income jobs etc, it this sorta bullshit that make me wanna go someplace else, somewhere in europe cud be the go.

    And the fact that the censored sites list is secret really fucks me off, coupled with the 404 page instead of a censored page leaves it wide open to govt meddling without limitations; the kb acc levy section could well become full of 404 errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    Its easy to avoid.
    Bingo.

    I don't know why anyone gives a shit - just go around it. (unless you are looking for kiddie porn, in which case, burn in hell you scumbag)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Bingo.

    I don't know why anyone gives a shit - just go around it. (unless you are looking for kiddie porn, in which case, burn in hell you scumbag)
    depends on the amount they block i spose, a few sites yeh, can live with proxying that, heaps could get to be a hassle, specially if they start blocking the proxies as well

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    Ha ha... and who's going to use that new $900,000,000 pipe i wonder (can i hear ya'll say REPLICATION)... I don't personally have a problem with being policed as I have nothing to hide... but preventing people from accessing a website, hmmmm, that could be used for all sorts of dodgy purposes... no good will come of it... But who cares, t'aint like anyone can do anything about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Bingo.

    I don't know why anyone gives a shit - just go around it. (unless you are looking for kiddie porn, in which case, burn in hell you scumbag)
    Most countries do have a far more rigerous internet filter system than NZ.

    Coming from the UK the thing that amazed me most about NZ is the amout of music and video you can easily download. The fact is that whilst some would say I am breaking copyrights when I download something I like, I then often keep an eye out and buy it. So in my case providing free access to music and video has increased the revenue of the music companies as if I were not able to sample it for free, I wouldn't e buying it. And the likely hood of a genuine theif actually paying for anything is highly unlikely so who will they actually be stopping?

    I do agree with the child porn ban. If you are kinky for kids in briefs just watch the Warehouse advert on TV

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    Freedom began it's major decline with the birth of socialism, the United Nations and the New World Order!

    Where is Helen Clark these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Freedom began it's major decline with the birth of socialism, the United Nations and the New World Order!
    John, you're sounding like a stuck record, mate. Besides, the NWO is hardly a socialist thing (it's also an unnecessary conspiracy theory).

    Surprisingly I'd agree with you on the freedom in decline part, but I suspect not on the cause.
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    yep the govt filter has been running for a while.....
    I saw BBC last night, and they are using an encryption re-router type thing in Iran where the govt suppression is very strong.
    Its called haystack, I'm sure if you google it you'll get it, I haven't checked it out yet.
    Apparently its free for the whole world, and the most powerful anti censorship device ever. Also its raised the HUGE global debate, because the english govt tried censoring from the net, video feeds of a protest on a coal powered power station in england that got feisty.
    All first world govts are crapping themselves because they are realising how powerful things such as this very blog could be, in bringing people together, fast, in a common belief, for the right and justice that is seriously lacking from the leeches on society we so honourably nominate to represent us in govt. Take a look at the thread about electing a new govt!. Shhhhh they are reading this right now.
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