Mining and Labour trying to fuck it

[rainman]

Well, that didn't take long:
http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/brow...claims-3431164

Next is the bait and switch - "No we won't mine the Barrier after all (but we will also mine the following areas...)".

Fucken liars.

[Quasievil]

Well, that didn't take long:
http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/brow...claims-3431164

Next is the bait and switch - "No we won't mine the Barrier after all (but we will also mine the following areas...)".

Fucken liars.

I love this quote from Goff

"Whatever John Key takes out of that estate that is protected, Labour will put back on becoming government," says Goff.

Clever guy, whats he going to do buy all the minerals back and bury it.....Labour brains at it again eh lol

[T.W.R]

When exactly did The british empire end and NZ INC begin.
My Uncle worked for the NZ Electricity dept.from the 1940s,not the British Empire Electricity Dept.
I've never heard of any British Empire farmed Lamb begin sent to england.
For that matter that is a pretty good delusion you've got going there.
I applaud you.:slap:

ha and another thing too...

Electrcitiy mmmm where exactly does that go huh? ooh that's right to the general consumer....the population of the country.
When does gold & mineral deposits actually end up with the general public huh??

[T.W.R]

DOC are already flat out "poisoning" our National Parks right now and that's OK is it?

not interested in the facts when they are on an political hysteria bent!

Another 1080 bend huh John??? you've be lead to delusion by the Graf brothers

[Pixie]

ha and another thing too...

Electrcitiy mmmm where exactly does that go huh? ooh that's right to the general consumer....the population of the country.
When does gold & mineral deposits actually end up with the general public huh??

Well if,as in your fantasy,NZED was BEED,I would expect the profits to go to England.
Give up.You're wrong and you know it.
So sad to see someone clutching at straws

[T.W.R]

Well if,as in your fantasy,NZED was BEED,I would expect the profits to go to England.
Give up.You're wrong and you know it.
So sad to see someone clutching at straws

you're an amusing twat....

[rainman]

I love this quote from Goff

"Whatever John Key takes out of that estate that is protected, Labour will put back on becoming government," says Goff.

Clever guy, whats he going to do buy all the minerals back and bury it.....Labour brains at it again eh lol

You obviously missed the bit that mining might take a few years to get going (no InstaMine!). And there's an election next year, when hopefully the country will wake up from it's bout of temporary insanity and kick these useless, lying, bastards to touch. At which point any changes to S4 can be undone, with in all likelihood no minerals to put back.

I'd say "National brains at it again" but first there'd have to be evidence that those existed.

Back to the point though - are you really so insecure that you can overlook flagrant lies from a politician just because he's "one of yours"? And don't give me the standard "all of them lie, so it's OK" crap.

[oldrider]

Well, that didn't take long:
http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/brow...claims-3431164

Next is the bait and switch - "No we won't mine the Barrier after all (but we will also mine the following areas...)".

Fucken liars.

See saw, Majorie dore, Jenny shall have a new master (old nursery rhyme) that's what has fucked Auckland all these years!

NOTHING REALLY EVER GETS DONE!

Time to get real and make these politicians manage the country the way "we" want it managed but first we have to decide what the fuck it is that "we" really want!

Politicians only respond to the wants of the electorate in order to get votes, the confusion of the politicians only reflects the confusion of the electorate!

In my experience there is nothing as dumb and misinformed as the average New Zealander standing up and spouting forth his general and historical knowledge!

You want political stability and truth from your politicians, have a good look in your bathroom mirror and you will see why we have got the confusion that we have!

The same things go for our medical system, Doctors behave the way do because they are responding to patient demands for a miracle pill!

If we were all visiting spacemen, how do you think you would perceive New Zealand? I suspect It's not a pretty sight!

Flopping back and forth between Labour and National has never got us anywhere and MMP has made it worse!

Instead of A and B fighting for the benefit of "C", it is now ABCDEFG and H, "all" fighting for the benefit of "C"! Great odds for "C"!

Times are getting tougher every day, time for clearer thinking than this hysterical shit the media are dishing up daily for average Joe to consume!

[Quasievil]

are you really so insecure that you can overlook flagrant lies from a politician just because he's "one of yours"?

if youre a labour man im laughing...............alot

[rainman]

In my experience there is nothing as dumb and misinformed as the average New Zealander standing up and spouting forth his general and historical knowledge!
...
If we were all visiting spacemen, how do you think you would perceive New Zealand? I suspect It's not a pretty sight!
...
Times are getting tougher every day, time for clearer thinking than this hysterical shit the media are dishing up daily for average Joe to consume!

I'd agree with most of that. Problem is (on both sides) people have their identity so embedded in being "for" one party and "agin" the other that they miss the bigger picture. (Take Mr Quasi for a recent example, I suspect). Also, our media doesn't do us any great service when it comes to pointing out reality - far easier to run some entertainment distraction that to put boring economics/politics/world affairs in the paper, who wants to read that?

We are not a pretty sight, when viewed externally. Our biggest failing is to believe we're special, in global terms, for reasons other than our idealised image of being clean, green, nuke free, hobbit loving hippies - which we don't seem to value highly, when it comes to the crunch. Most of the rest of the world doesn't even know where we are, let alone the reality of our actual economic and environmental operation. We're not special. Time we grew up.

The world out there is in an interesting place at the moment, and we certainly need some clear thinking, and some tough decisions. Blind continuation of ideas from the past, whether right wing or left, won't serve us best. Good luck getting the general uninformed public to understand that, though.

if youre a labour man im laughing...............alot

No, I'm not. Care to answer the question, or are you going to do a Tank and avoid that?

[MisterD]

are you really so insecure that you can overlook flagrant lies from a politician just because he's "one of yours"?

I really hope you're not a Labourite...shall we look at "Mr Margin of Error" and his positions on GST or, yes, mining?

[MisterD]

The world out there is in an interesting place at the moment, and we certainly need some clear thinking, and some tough decisions.

Like say, a hard look at the balance between mineral wealth and the eco-religion, or limits on the depths of society's pockets when it comes to welfare?

Thanks to the pragmatism of the new government we're coming out of the global fuckup with a significantly smaller deficit than most developed countries. I'm picking that this stoush over mining will actually be the setup to justify the needed cuts on government expenditure come budget time...

[rainman]

Like say, a hard look at the balance between mineral wealth and the eco-religion, or limits on the depths of society's pockets when it comes to welfare?

Framed in somewhat different terms, and amongst a whole bunch of other things, yes.

For clarity, I'm pretty sure the answer isn't "Rogernomics 2", btw. Or anything like it.

I really hope you're not a Labourite...

No, I'm not. And you're missing the point.

[avgas]

But there are solutions to the "poisonous swimming pool"... water powered cars for instance.

Something tells me it does not run on cyanide and various acids. These poisonous swimming pools I speak of do not contain water.

[Skyryder]

Whatever the figure Gerry 'dates in my cake' Brownlle or John 'I don't care about the tourism industry' Key comes up with the royalties on this mining is only 1%. I have always said that Key is not a smart politician. To put at risk his Government at the next election for such a small amount reiinforces my opinion of the man. National seems to have forgotten the lessons of Manapouri.

Skyryder