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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    As I said, I'd be happy for stiffer penalties for attacking a cop. But with priviledge comes responsibility, hence the "abuse of official power" bit. And no, you didn't burst my bubble, there was none to be burst.
    You have a point - but at present the shit-heads have the upper hand when it comes to attacks on law officers.

    I love listening to the dialogue on Yankee cop shows, ya never hear the shitheads there saying 'fuck you' and 'wanker' etc to the cops - it's 'yessir' and 'sorry sir' and the tension/assault level seems waay down compared to NZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Well sorry to pop your bubble but in NZ you are more likely to be given a higher penalty for biffing another member of the public than if you biffed a member of the constabulary. Fact.

    That's why I love the job, I get paid so much money to be punched/spat at/have genital attacked etc....

    One day I'll resign and when somebody has a go at me I'll really do a number on them, hell at least it won't cost me my job!
    Your genitals attacked??........Sounds like wishful thinking to me; unless of course the stories about southerners is true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    You have a point - but at present the shit-heads have the upper hand when it comes to attacks on law officers.

    I love listening to the dialogue on Yankee cop shows, ya never hear the shitheads there saying 'fuck you' and 'wanker' etc to the cops - it's 'yessir' and 'sorry sir' and the tension/assault level seems waay down compared to NZ.
    Yes, they do have the upper hand. Unfortunately. And something needs to be done about that. However, my other point is, that compared to what I grew up with, there seems to be very little accountability for the cops. I have heard about any number a of cases, where the cops fucked up (whether deliberately or not) and nothing happened to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans View Post
    With respect. You just don't get it, do you. A crime is a crime, whether the person who commits it is wearing a hoodie or a uniform. In other words those "victims of arrest", as you put, may also be victims of a crime. At least if it was an "arrest" instead of an arrest.
    I do get it. If the cops beat the shit out of someone then I understand. However in this case, which is unreported in the new story, I guess it sells the story better, the cops were trying to move the guy (or somesuch) and he kept fighting, in the real story, they warn him, he refuses to calm down, they threaten to spray, still no comply, spray, ok he has a natural risilience to the spray. They kept trying to talk to him but to no avail, so they kept going until he was pacified enough to handle. It's fair enough. All he had to do was stop being a moron and attacking everyone that tried to come in.

    Now, i'd rather the cops did that than go in and get beaten by the piece of shit. He lost all his rights in my mind when he started fighting with the cops, completely unnecessarily. Had the cops done that to him for no reason, then yep, I see your side totally, but this is far from the case.
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    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    I do get it. If the cops beat the shit out of someone then I understand. However in this case, which is unreported in the new story, I guess it sells the story better, the cops were trying to move the guy (or somesuch) and he kept fighting, in the real story, they warn him, he refuses to calm down, they threaten to spray, still no comply, spray, ok he has a natural risilience to the spray. They kept trying to talk to him but to no avail, so they kept going until he was pacified enough to handle. It's fair enough. All he had to do was stop being a moron and attacking everyone that tried to come in.

    Now, i'd rather the cops did that than go in and get beaten by the piece of shit. He lost all his rights in my mind when he started fighting with the cops, completely unnecessarily. Had the cops done that to him for no reason, then yep, I see your side totally, but this is far from the case.
    Dress it up however you like the court does not share your veiw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixPackBack View Post
    Dress it up however you like the court does not share your veiw.
    And tomorrow we read this man smashed his wife and kids. Then we say why the hell didnt the cops do summit.

    Oh and thats view not veiw

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
    And tomorrow we read this man smashed his wife and kids. Then we say why the hell didnt the cops do summit.

    Oh and thats view not veiw
    Or worse, he would throw rubbish out his car window.......

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    We give the cops pepper spray, and this is what happens......what about when we give them guns?

    This is not the first complaint involving improper use of (for the court saw it that way, therefore, it is) pepper spray/tazers etc, and I assure you it won't be the last.

    I just wonder what happened to the cops involved.....I don't understand how no assult charges can follow, they get to keep their jobs?

    What is up with that?

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    FFS...whatever happened to" phone book therapy?
    Been smacked up a "few" times by the cops (deservedly so), and got a nice solid brutality from Mr A-Z!
    Bring back the days when you simply got a slap up and sent on your way (for 'minor' shit).

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    Because 'phone book therapy' and 'wet fish justice' has got a few cops in more than a little trouble with metrosexual tree hugging hairy armpit types. And sadly, they can make someone's life pretty fucking miserable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbks View Post
    The New Zealand justice system also believes that paroling murderers and paedophiles is a good idea. After their 3 year sentences, of course

    Yep
    He's fuckin glad to live under the umbrella that the police and other authorities provide, but seems to have something up his arse sideways, about it
    The NZ 'Justice' system also thinks David Bain is not guilty, so there's your starting point.

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    The details look like more than a 'thick ear'.......A sickening brutal act by a bunch of thugs.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10634666

    A young man beaten with batons and pepper-sprayed 65 times by four police officers in a closed cell has received $30,000 in compensation.
    Rawiri Falwasser, 26 at the time, was seriously injured while in custody at the Whakatane police station after he was arrested on suspicion of stealing a car on Labour Day 2006.
    Sergeant Keith Parsons, Sergeant Erle Busby, Senior Constable Bruce Laing and Constable John Mills were later found not guilty of nine charges of assault by a jury in June 2008.
    But Justice Lyn Stevens has ruled in the High Court at Auckland that Mr Falwasser should be paid $30,000 in damages under a breach of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act.
    Justice Stevens said there was no dispute that Mr Falwasser was assaulted several times with police batons - splitting his head with a 6cm cut - and repeatedly pepper-sprayed over a 20-minute period.
    In his decision, he said the New Zealand Police admitted that the use of baton blows and pepper spray was an abuse of power and did not submit justified use of force as a defence.
    The incident was captured on closed-circuit security cameras, and Justice Stevens said the actions ofthe four senior officers were unnecessary, unjustified and without lawful authority.


    Rawiri Falwasser was arrested on Labour Day 2006 on suspicion of stealing a neighbour's car. He had not been in trouble with police before and was later diagnosed as having a psychotic episode, despite having no history of mental illness.He resisted requests to fingerprint and photograph him - but was not violent - and was struck with a baton after again refusing to leave the perspex holding cell.
    A 20-minute assault followed in which Mr Falwasser was struck several times with batons and was pepper-sprayed 65 times.
    The spray was squirted through vents at the top and bottom of the cell, and there was so much in the air that other police officers had to leave the room. The doctor called to treat Mr Falwasser could not see him through the fog of spray.
    In his evidence, Mr Falwasser said he thought he would suffocate and die and he was in terrible pain.
    "He described the pain as feeling like really hot water being poured over your body but without any physical burn," said Justice Stevens.
    A psychological report written last August, said Mr Falwasser had been diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder. He was unable to sleep, had nightmares, felt isolated from friends and family and had not lived independently since the incident.

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