Easter road toll was the worst in 16 years

[roadracingoldfart]

If fuckwitted = Bad Decisions/ Driving ability, then i agree with you 100%.

As for the answer to the reason people overtake.. I think DB brought it up, another is that people can't stick to one speed!
This gets bloody annoying to people who can actually drive, and want to keep a constant velocity...

Of course a person who can actually drive, will make the decision to wait until an appropriate place to over take, and read the road properly.

SO, it all comes back to EDUCATION! and attitude....
The Attitude of educated drivers is much better.....

Okay, I plucked all this out of my colon, but I'm sure there are some people who will agree...

I was edumacated once but i forgetted alot of it later.

I agree wholeheartedly, despite the wretched stench of colon permeating from your post...

I heard someone call him a total asshole with a sewer mouth one time , now i know why that was ........




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[MaxCannon]

Driving's in the blood.

Do I smell sarcasm ?

As it happens Dad was a professional driver.
In the roughly 400,000 kms I've driven a car I've never had an accident. All around NZ, half of Australia, big chunks of the States and a couple of circuits of the UK.

On the bike I've put it down twice on the track, never on the road.
(Maybe I should have asked him for Bike lessions too).

But your point is valid - parents teaching their kids to drive isn't the right approach. You are putting someone in charge of a lethal weapon, to do so with so little training on how to point the damn thing in the right direction is madness.

[Tink]

The real reason for all these fatalities is because there are too many selfish pricks who think that they own the roads, V.

I think this comment PUTS IT IN ONE...!

[smoky]

I think fuckwitted driving causes these road fatalities.

But blame your favourite reason it you want...

great example of a typical cop baptized in the company line - come on scummy; even your Minister agreed with what I'm saying while being interviewed on Close Up tonight.

[Woodman]

Overtaking is a big problem to some drivers, I drive between richmond and motueka every day and some of the overtaking I see has to be seen to be believed, and the real mind boggling thing is that there are a regular few that do it pretty much every day. I am pretty sure that they just rely on the cars going the same way to back off and let them in, and the ones coming towards them to take evasive action. It probly saves them at most a couple of minutes on the drive to work. Shit I have even been passed on the outside once.

[CookMySock]

The real reason for all these fatalities is because there are too many selfish pricks who think that they own the roads, giving them the right to travel well below the speed limits holding traffic up and they refuse to pull over and let people past. Therefore, other people get angry and impatient and make poor decisions when it comes to overtaking, which in some cases leads to a 1V.

LOL whut?

You speak as if people can get as angry as they like, and it's everyone elses' fault. I do not think so.

Reality check bro - If you feel angry it's your problem - no one elses. You have no rights afforded to you by any means to take any action simply because you feel strongly.

If everyone acted out their angry feelings the roads would be completely unusable.

Steve

[smoky]

LOL whut?

You speak as if people can get as angry as they like, and it's everyone elses' fault. I do not think so.

Reality check bro - If you feel angry it's your problem - no one elses.

There's a reality in both arguments DB, surely you can see that?

I'm a fat bastard, and generally I ignore rude remarks about my size, because it's my choice if I get angry or not - but rest assured even if it's my problem, every now and then I shut some one up
my point is if you piss people off long enough - sure it's their problem, but you'll probably pay the price for it sooner or later

Reality check is their will always be those who over estimate their ability behind the wheel or on a bike, who get frustrated sitting in ridiculous traffic, we arn't going to police and advertise that fact away to nil - there are a lot of places we could widen the road to duel carriage way (don't have to build new ones). there's plenty of room on state highway 1 in places like north of Ngaruawahia to widen it, instead you get stuck doing 80 behind nanas or dip sticks with double yellows every where.

[rainman]

Driving's in the blood.

Fuck that's an annoying advert.

[CookMySock]

even if it's my problem, every now and then I shut some one up
my point is if you piss people off long enough - sure it's their problem, but you'll probably pay the price for it sooner or later

Yeah mate for sure, but this is the road. Peoples' families are at stake here. Angry people on the road are fucking dangerous, and I submit they are well in excess of 50% of the problem.

Reality check is their will always be those who over estimate their ability behind the wheel or on a bike, who get frustrated sitting in ridiculous traffic, we arn't going to police and advertise that fact away to nil - there are a lot of places we could widen the road to duel carriage way (don't have to build new ones). there's plenty of room on state highway 1 in places like north of Ngaruawahia to widen it, instead you get stuck doing 80 behind nanas or dip sticks with double yellows every where.

Thats too bad bro - some days you get a raw deal - it's like that for everyone. People should just suck their guts in and STFU, just like they have to when their mrs angrily brow-beats them about something, or when they feel annoyed with their kids.

Steve

[SMOKEU]

LOL whut?

You speak as if people can get as angry as they like, and it's everyone elses' fault. I do not think so.

Reality check bro - If you feel angry it's your problem - no one elses. You have no rights afforded to you by any means to take any action simply because you feel strongly.

If everyone acted out their angry feelings the roads would be completely unusable.

Steve

If someone wants/needs to drive slowly then that's fine. If they have a classic vehicle, or are towing a trailer, driving a truck, learner driver etc then it's OK to drive slow. Just pull over, let people past and there is no problem. I get very pissed off when they refuse to pull over and feel that it's fine to block traffic due to their selfishness.

[Blackbird]

There's no doubt that impatience and a whole other raft of things causes accidents but laziness combined with poor situational awareness training are significant factors IMHO. This Easter was a classic example on the Coromandel. Mrs B & I were driving down the Thames coast road on Friday morning en route to Auckland. There was a high traffic flow coming onto the Peninsula from Auckland and elsewhere. The number of northbound vehicles which straightened bends (including blind ones) and came into our lane defied belief. These drivers simply aren't aware of the potential consequences or if they are, they take the risk anyway. One even gave me the fingers when I pointed to his side of the road after he had to make a correction! Grrrrr.....

[cheshirecat]

I was comming back to Welly over the Rimu's Monday eve (after a day of seeing near miss's - I actually felt safer on my bike) with another bike a couple of cars ahead. We were in a queue of vehicles following two artic's. Both pulled over to let us all pass BUT only the bikes tooted in thanks - both trucks tooted back. Does that say something.

For my 2c worth the driving test, especiaily the MC, one is insanely dumbed down, badly written and patronising. If driving standards are to improve they could start there

[Genestho]

There's no doubt that impatience and a whole other raft of things causes accidents but laziness combined with poor situational awareness training are significant factors IMHO. This Easter was a classic example on the Coromandel. Mrs B & I were driving down the Thames coast road on Friday morning en route to Auckland. There was a high traffic flow coming onto the Peninsula from Auckland and elsewhere. The number of northbound vehicles which straightened bends (including blind ones) and came into our lane defied belief. These drivers simply aren't aware of the potential consequences or if they are, they take the risk anyway. One even gave me the fingers when I pointed to his side of the road after he had to make a correction! Grrrrr.....

Driving to the coromandel is a shocking and wonderful example. (add kaimais to that too actually! Following is an example of regular occurances - after following a car of young girls last week that wouldn't merge with a truck coming out of the slow lane preferring to boot it past, over the yellows on a blind corner - their parents or anyone else were lucky nothing was coming the other way that night!)

I can safely agree - the amount of times I've seen oncoming traffic or dangerous manouvres on this route, for the sake of arriving somewhere a few minutes faster.

I've been driving to the coromandel most holidays for 12 years, before the kids were born, would leave at 5am and miss the lot of it, but following boats or caravans for 20kms, with backed up traffic behind, without pulling over at 70km's is a regularity.

I find trucks are pretty good and usually pull over when and where they can.
I've learnt after years of driving this route - to expect backed up traffic and just cruise, or pull over myself and get my kids out of the mad packs chomping at the bit, and to encourage pulling over by giving a toot at the ones that pull over with a cheery wave! (used to do the same on the bike too!)

[Ixion]

The reason for the road toll is simple. People are stupid. Remember, by definition, every other person on the road is of sub-normal intelligence. if it's not you, it must be either the person in front of you or the one behind. Moreover, not only are people stupid, many do not actually want to drive. It is a chore they endure, unwillingly. Stupid and apathetic is always going to end up in tears. The problem with slow drivers is that usually they are slow because they are stupid and apathetic. This means they are not only slow but erratic and unpredictable. Personally I don't mind in the least riding behind a slow vehicle (with most of my bikes I have little choice anyway). Provided the slow driver is competent. But they very seldom are. They take weird lines through corners, brake mid corner, slam on the brakes without any apparent reason, weave around on the road, do even stranger things. This means that following one is a test in concentration and reaction. Which is stressful and very tiring.

[duckonin]

Needs the worst add of the year AWARD !!! ( drivings in the blood) PHWWAA