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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    Come on. You are better to just accept the ticket and fight it in court.
    Make sure you take a photo of him or her on your phone so you have proof.
    If you say anything there and then he'll just go get his hat and you're fucked.
    Happened to a mate of mine. Said ha ha you weren't wearing your hat and sped off. Cop chased him, put his hat on and ticketed him for the speeding and for loss of traction when he sped off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Ok, well what if he's wearing his hat a jaunty angle. As well, he's got a stripy shirt on, a string of garlic hanging around his nect and an unlit cigarette hanging from the side of his mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Do cops legally have to have their red and blues flashing if.....
    they're exceeding the posted speed limit?
    http://http://www.northernadvocate.co.nz/local/news/speeding-police-officers-called-to-task/3612053/

    I'm pretty sure they have to fill out the paperwork if they are snapped by a speed camera even with their lights flashing.
    I live next a speed camera, four lanes with central median, nearly every time a cop goes past they slow down for the camera and then hit the gas after.
    If they are really in a hurry they pull onto the central median as there is no sensors in the road there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    "If he's not wearing his hat, the ticket is void"
    He does have to identify himself as a police officer, and the hat is a method that will hold in a court of law. He might have other methods but I do not know if they are fully watertight. The hat is a legal ID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    He does have to identify himself as a police officer, and the hat is a method that will hold in a court of law. He might have other methods but I do not know if they are fully watertight. The hat is a legal ID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    The disco taxi isn't?
    I'm not an expert on that, but I'd say a car is just a car regardless of how its painted and lit. It the officer of the law that is the symbol with the powers to arrest or otherwise detain you, and HE must identify himself as such or else his actions are ultra vires.

    edit: ie, he might not have his hat on, and while you are punching his lights out he announced "I am a police officer" you legally would have to cease and desist.

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    Is it only the ones in plain clothes that have to provide id... isn't it a given that the ones in uniform and driving marked cars are cops... otherwise why'd you pull over in the first place? Seems a bit daft... it's the cop that has the authority not the hat? Possibly the bush lawyers need to update their tablets me thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stig View Post
    http://http://www.northernadvocate.co.nz/local/news/speeding-police-officers-called-to-task/3612053/

    I'm pretty sure they have to fill out the paperwork if they are snapped by a speed camera even with their lights flashing.
    I live next a speed camera, four lanes with central median, nearly every time a cop goes past they slow down for the camera and then hit the gas after.
    If they are really in a hurry they pull onto the central median as there is no sensors in the road there.
    Interesting... Must remember that..

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    I'm not an expert on that, but I'd say a car is just a car regardless of how its painted and lit. It the officer of the law that is the symbol with the powers to arrest or otherwise detain you, and HE must identify himself as such or else his actions are ultra vires.

    edit: ie, he might not have his hat on, and while you are punching his lights out he announced "I am a police officer" you legally would have to cease and desist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    I'm not an expert


    Well thats a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    they're exceeding the posted speed limit?
    Hey, peasant! Do as they say, not as they do!
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    Does their warrant mean nothing these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    The legalities have little to with it; they do as they please and if anyone questions what they're up to they lie to cover their arses. If that doesn't work they get a higher authority to lie for them.

    And if you dare to question them...............ya got attitude.


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    Last time I followed alongside a speeding copper who didnt have his lights on, at the next set of traffic lights he gave me an earful... i pointed out he was also speeding, and his response simply was 'cant you see we have someone in the back?'

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    "Well, Officer, I knew I was going at the same speed as you. And I am certain you would not break the speed limit unless responding to an emergency (in which case it would be logged with comms). So I reasonably assumed that my speedometer had become defective. I will have it checked at the first opportunity"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    He does have to identify himself as a police officer, and the hat is a method that will hold in a court of law. He might have other methods but I do not know if they are fully watertight. The hat is a legal ID.

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