Pick my new bike for me (because I can't figure it out)

[oldskool]

No not really just get sick a people who just harp on about one brand over and over hell i ride a yami but dont go on and on about it there are a ton of options not just what you (meaning who ever is posting )rides as a brand just cuase you think it great dosnt mean its the best brand or bike .

Not sure where you are coming from Barty.
I share from my experiences and not from some BS hype I have read somewhere online. I've ridden a KX125 and Noobs GasGas EC125. And between them I can say the EC125 is a better bike for trail riding hands down. I've ridden the KTMexc250 (4T) and YZF250 and can say the KTM is a better bike to ride on trails hands down. Between the KTM EXC250 (4T) and the GGEC300 I can say the GasGas EC300 is a better bike to ride on trails hands down.
I only describe from my experiences and not some academic make believe I've conjured from reading about something somewhere. It's not about pushing a brand of bike but sharing from real experience so making Spike a better informed buyer. Why would you wank on about a particular brand if you have never ridden it before?

[green machine]

How about a KXF450...............just stirring

[takitimu]

shit barty thats a bit hard on some of the other brands, if i cant get the husky i want ill be back on a honda again, purely because of the fact they're not a bad bike and the local dealer is a good guy, and he's a neighbour too. but if you are un-biased on brands there are plenty of options. the gas gas are a good bike as are the husky's a husky cr125 maybe a lil aggresive tho, if they had the wr125 in nz that would be my option for ya, we have a crf150 f up here on the farm as a spare bike, and shit that can take a hiding, everytime it gets riden it get thrahed.

Actually they do the WR125 in NZ , Damon's on one. Though maybe still to tall, Cassidy ( Damon/Mitchell's sister ) is riding one & going good & Cass is not that tall.

Being more serious, a KX450F would be interesting, but hey go the full hog, get a Husky TXC510 just that bit extra horsepower for when you need to tow a horse float or pull a small house off it's foundations.

[cheese]

So Sacha, are you really confused now?

I just researched some specs and its interesting to point out that an average 125 2 stroke MX bike versus a 250 MX bike is about 6kg difference (the 250 is heavier). And interestingly enough the 125 is 10cm higher (that is for 2 yamaha 09 bikes). I do remember one year of the CRF250s were about 92kg. But apparently unbiased brand Aaron said they are gay LOL!!

If you want bigger wheels and usable power that you can use I really think that a 4 smoker will be better for you. Personally I think that you'll find a 125 a bigger version of your current headaches.

What hight is your inseam on your leg too BTW. Might be easier to work out ideal heights from manufacturers specs etc.

[4stroke]

Actually they do the WR125 in NZ , Damon's on one. Though maybe still to tall, Cassidy ( Damon/Mitchell's sister ) is riding one & going good & Cass is not that tall.

Being more serious, a KX450F would be interesting, but hey go the full hog, get a Husky TXC510 just that bit extra horsepower for when you need to tow a horse float or pull a small house off it's foundations.

oh i thought they didnt bring the wr125 in, but mint if they do i recon, gives a few more options of a bikes

[SpikedPunch]

So Sacha, are you really confused now?

Yup!
28" Inseam...Midgey as. I'm not really keen on a 4 stroke. Prefer having the mainenance of a 2t, plus I prefer them to ride. Of course, my whole four stroke experience has been the dr-z 125 and lumpy, our old '83 honda, so not the best examples. But I like 2 strokes, what can I say!

[Buddy L]

Just to point out that Japan did do 125 endro bikes

KDX 125
RMX 125
Rather dated now

Ive seen a couple of KDX125's zinging around.

A brand new WR125 would be my next bike for shore.

[laserracer]

OK stop looking i found the perfect bike it has everything http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-283345952.htm

[rogerh]

The pamperas are good for absolute beginner riders, they are basically a trials bike engine in a trails bike frame with a subframe and full plastics.
So as such, if you put a 100kg rider on it and ride it hard ie. jumps, they have been known to break frames.

Just a few more comments on the Pampera. We have one here my wife rides. It actually is an enduro type frame, but very light weight, and I would imagine they would break with a heavy rider, or being ridden hard. But its biggest weak point from my perspective is a relatively crap rear shock. You could upgrade it, but then the frame would get a harder time.

As stated, really good for beginners, really confidence inspiring for new riders, and very forgiving to ride (great engine, trials low down, but up in the revs, it is a real two stroke) but as your riding improves, the suspenders will quickly become a limitation. Also a bit hard for lighter people to kick start, but I have heard there is a mod you can do to the head to put a simple de-compressor in.

Good for low speed technical riding (good practice bike for skills sharpening), but it will never be a high speed machine. The engine will do it (140k's if you want!) but the frame and suspension wont. It shows its trials background. I believe it was actually designed for motorcycle soccer use in Spain. Go figure....

Bike looks like it was pretty hurriedly put together, as the finish is not great, but hey, I drink the orange cool aide! Good bike for the right rider though.

PM me if you want to ride this one to see. I could bring up up there some time (jolly roosta?), or you are welcome to come down here.

[tommorth]

OK stop looking i found the perfect bike it has everything http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-283345952.htm

damn that looks like a good toy especaliy with the autoclutch setup on it

[Reckless]

Is it just me or are GasGas owners starting to sound a bit like KTM owners gg this gg that oh there is nothing better than a gg oh you couldnt pass up on a gg hell dont worry if the frame breaks youll still own a gg i dont know could just be me maybe ???????????

No im just saying that people seam to get on a bike they like and thats all they are prepared to push on to people (not everyone of course) and this mostly seam to be KTM riders and starting to look like GG riders are heading the same way. And yes all honda riders are GAY geeee where have you been

No not really just get sick a people who just harp on about one brand over and over hell i ride a yami but dont go on and on about it there are a ton of options not just what you (meaning who ever is posting )rides as a brand just cuaue you think it great dosnt mean its the best brand or bike .

I've just skimmed the thread and didn't see one post where anyone harped on and on about their own bike or brand, 99% are recommending other bikes, offering rides for Spikes benefit and two posts are offering bikes they have for sale which they think might fit the bill. All posts seem to be peoples genuine opinion on what they think might fit or modified to fit and 98% are brands they don't ride. Some 2stroke die hards even recommending 4 strokes, I don't get what your Issue is at all???
The only negative posts are the ones quoted above so perhaps the problem is more yours than what you accuse. I only write this because I feel you aren't being at all fair regarding this thread!

[rogerh]

OK stop looking i found the perfect bike it has everything http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-283345952.htm

Now that it a good machine! Shame it is not cheaper. 11 yr old son has an older 80, and it is an awsome machine, but none of the fruit that one has....

[Reckless]

OK stop looking i found the perfect bike it has everything http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-283345952.htm

Yeh agree with Tommorth, good find Lazer, there is some trick gear on that thing, as long as it has a bit of low torque it would make an awsome woods bike I reckon!!

Getting back on topic though its probably still got a 980 or so seat height, the 150XC recommended earlier also has a 985mm seat height as well, far to tall although the Yammy 144 does have a linkage that can be modified. Both bikes also way out of Spikes budget so we better keep to the bikes she can afford I reckon!

So back concentrating on Sikpunches wishes, low seat, two stroke for trail riding.
Just looked at the GG125ec specs that has a 945mm seat height and a linkage set up, so easily lowered, and its a smoker like Spike wants, whats it like for torque compared to your 200ec or say my 200exc Noobi or IIIRRII? Will it putt over a sand hill climb in 2nd or 3rd and not stall as I haven't ridden one? she doesn't want to but bigger problems than her Rm100 already has and that the good old KDX might cure.

[Rupe]

Yup!
28" Inseam...Midgey as. I'm not really keen on a 4 stroke. Prefer having the mainenance of a 2t, plus I prefer them to ride. Of course, my whole four stroke experience has been the dr-z 125 and lumpy, our old '83 honda, so not the best examples. But I like 2 strokes, what can I say!

a moden 4stroke would be a 100% different than a drz125. The mx ones are way lighter, and snappier. On the maintenace side of things my kxf is now on 185hrs on original valves etc and going strong.I'm finding that it's costing me well over half the amount per year to run than my 2stroke gasgas I had. I personally find it needs less $ spent to keep it running 100%, so don't let the old shitter 4strokes put you off.

Like I said earlier you just need to ride a few different bikes till something clicks for you...the jolly roosta sounds like it would be perfect for you to do this. Then you can get what works for you not someone else.

[Reckless]

a moden 4stroke would be a 100% different than a drz125. The mx ones are way lighter, and snappier. On the maintenace side of things my kxf is now on 185hrs on original valves etc and going strong.I'm finding that it's costing me well over half the amount per year to run than my 2stroke gasgas I had. I personally find it needs less $ spent to keep it running 100%, so don't let the old shitter 4strokes put you off.

Like I said earlier you just need to ride a few different bikes till something clicks for you...the jolly roosta sounds like it would be perfect for you to do this. Then you can get what works for you not someone else.

Your probably right there Rupe about the 4 stroke power delivery its just we get a bit scared when we hear that Telliman spent 3k getting his crf250f up to scratch and I know GTAE just spent 2k getting his top end done as he was running it in at Ardmore 4 weeks ago. And I'm pretty sure SPike and Krad would have to pay a shop to work on a 4 stroke if they had one. I know that probably sounds very contadictory from me as I put forward the CRF150r as an option but at least she has them all to consider LOL!!!

Ah well I think that probably about covers all the options for her and your 100% correct she'll just have to go ride ride ride now!!!