Police killing us again!

[smoky]

I think it's because that's the only place they can hunt and meet the quota. The cops know that most people who exceed the arbitrary speed limit also look further ahead than the vehicle immediately in front and that gives them time to wipe off speed when they spot a rozza.

So the cops hang around blind bends to gain the element of surprise.

And that is the main cause of the problem

I heard from someone who attended the scene (clean up), that there was a lot of talk between the officers attending about this so called speeding ute that was supposedly the reason the cop was doing a U turn. There was nothing locked on the radar to indicate he had locked on to another vehicle, and where the accident happened just happens to be a spot where this cop catches a number of people, the insinuation is that he was doing a U turn to park just off the road to sit there and catch people speeding over the hill. Not turning to pursue a speeding ute as claimed

But we shall wait and see if the facts come out or not. Police in this country regularly lie to cover their arses

[Fatjim]

Man there is some one eyed bullshit on this thread, from both sides, and the middle as well (no not a brown eye).

Look, the guy might have been speeding. But the simple truth is that was a dumb place to park your car.

There will be many factors in this accident. But if someone did a uturn in front of me at that point, I'm not sure that I, stone cold sober, doing 100kph, would guarantee I would have avoided the accident.

NZ roads would be a far safer place if people would just kept to their side of the road.

Oh, and someone mentioned, what if a cow or horse was there instead? Well the owner would likely be in shit if they hadn't taken reasonable care to ensure it wasn't.

[nodrog:Me]

Oh, and someone mentioned, what if a cow or horse was there instead? Well the owner would likely be in shit if they hadn't taken reasonable care to ensure it wasn't.

of all the barnyard animals, a pig should have more of a brain than a cow or a horse.


R.I.P Paul

[MSTRS:Me]

You take a kid just out of school, you give him a fast car and a uniform.

Whats the difference to those kids who build their own car and thrash them.

The same adrenilne the same rush. YThe only difference is that these kids with the uniforms think they dont have to obey the same rules as us as they are cops.

No doubt that's true. But not in this case...or the Buller Gorge incident. Both cops had over 30 years in HW patrol.

[Mr Merde]

No doubt that's true. But not in this case...or the Buller Gorge incident. Both cops had over 30 years in HW patrol.

So it is a mentality that has taken over the whole of the department. I find that very easy to believe

[MSTRS:Me]

So it is a mentality that has taken over the whole of the department. I find that very easy to believe

Which is what some have been discussing...a certain amount of cowboy culture, encouraged by the quota system.
However, one would expect that officers who are in their 50s would have the experience and maturity to know what is/isn't a Bad Idea TM

[Mr Merde]

Which is what some have been discussing...a certain amount of cowboy culture, encouraged by the quota system.
However, one would expect that officers who are in their 50s would have the experience and maturity to know what is/isn't a Bad Idea TM

Experience and common sense go out the window when the "mob mentality" becomes normal. KB is a perfect example of this

[Swoop]

Why is there no independent group prepared to leap from their bat-cave every time there's a crash involving a cop car and conduct their own crusade to bring to light the 'true' facts?

That would be the "Independant" (stifles laughter) Police Complaints Authority!
Some say they drive a mobile Doughnut van, we just know them as the "IPCA".

Cops doing ... 3 point turns on our narrow roads in fucking aussie tanks with the turning circle of a tank...

Have you driven a VE commodore and know its turning circle?

[MSTRS:Me]

Tanks can turn 180 degrees in their own length...

[bogan]

Tanks can turn 180 degrees in their own length...

at least 180 init

[avgas]

Have you driven a VE commodore and know its turning circle?

Seconded - I can turn a Commo in a pretty tight turning circle. Shitloads better than my mazda and even better than the BMW we used to have.
If your skilled enough with the brakes I have seen people spin em on a dime.

[avgas]

No. Nobody is saying that. People will lie to protect themselves. Very few, but the Police, will lie to protect workmates.

You would be pleasantly surprised to see how many bikes would lie to protect other bikers too though.

[Swoop]

Seconded - I can turn a Commo in a pretty tight turning circle. Shitloads better than my mazda and even better than the BMW we used to have.
If your skilled enough with the brakes I have seen people spin em on a dime.

Exactly the point I was making. The turning circle is smaller than most would expect.

[avgas]

If you went to work, done something incredibly stupid and killed a person, do you think anyone would write it off as a mistake?, a mistake you should be allowed to make?

Very valid point.
However would you slam the whole industry simply due to the mistake of 1 in the industry. I am referring to the opening statement made by the OP.
The police force is full of arseholes.........just like KB

[terbang]

Its a fault within their organization, quite likely a hazardous, verging on dishonest attitude well entrenched within the lofty heights of their management. Some call it wearing blinkers, others would call it criminal..!
Most plods on the street are OK and really want to do the right thing (well they start out that way), but the organization they work for is clearly flawed as the road toll worsens and this sort of "chase em at all costs" incident continues unabated.
The NZ Police really should be subjected to the bright lights of an independent scrutiny and be held accountable for any negative findings. It just sounds like our Waikato moron was basically slack and complacent as he's probably been doing it for too long. Though probably well within the current culture of the organization.