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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Coincidence would be if it was from a plural overdoses.
    Nah - more like pleurisy...
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    Apologies if I've repeated anyone as I've only skimmed this but where does the money go from the white poppy's? I assume the red one goes to the vet's which surely ANZAC day is all about remembering. When we have headlines of war vet's living out the last of their days in grotty flats not being looked after surely there should be concern with a competing charity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spajohn View Post
    ...where does the money go from the white poppy's?
    From the stuff article:
    "The white poppy is a long-standing international symbol of remembrance and peace and we wanted to have it around Anzac Day because that's the day that's most appropriate for New Zealand."

    Last year it raised about $5000, enough for three scholarships. All money collected in the appeal was going to peace scholarships, which were available to assist research on "the impacts of militarism, militarisation and warfare; alternatives to militarism, warfare, or collective non-violent responses to state violence".

    One of the first scholarships was awarded to Victoria University student Marianne Bevan to fund a visit to East Timor to study militarisation, violence and gender issues in the country's recently established police force.

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    Well then I say the white poppy's should bugger off, at least til the day after, so the collections are focused on the vet's that gave up so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyrobot View Post
    From the stuff article:
    "The white poppy is a long-standing international symbol of remembrance and peace and we wanted to have it around Anzac Day because that's the day that's most appropriate for New Zealand."

    Last year it raised about $5000, enough for three scholarships. All money collected in the appeal was going to peace scholarships, which were available to assist research on "the impacts of militarism, militarisation and warfare; alternatives to militarism, warfare, or collective non-violent responses to state violence".

    One of the first scholarships was awarded to Victoria University student Marianne Bevan to fund a visit to East Timor to study militarisation, violence and gender issues in the country's recently established police force.
    I've just twigged...
    These are the bastards that just cost the tax payers $1.5m for repairs to Waihopai, aren't they?

    What a bunch of cahnts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    I've just twigged...
    These are the bastards that just cost the tax payers $1.5m for repairs to Waihopai, aren't they?

    What a bunch of cahnts.

    Obviously raising money for the civil trial.
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    No, it's not the same people at all. Dont let that stop you ranting and raving and foaming at the mouth though

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyrobot View Post
    No, it's not the same people at all. Dont let that stop you ranting and raving and foaming at the mouth though
    Have a look on their web site, there are blogs in support for the defendants and reports of support meetings held..
    A bunch of cahnts, as I said.

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    Bloody peacenics!!!
    Piss off and create your own scene, without latching onto the ones who actually were out there fighting and dying for the peace you now live in.

    If I see any of these gutless fools out selling, they`ll cop a heap of abuse that`s for bloody sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormer View Post
    Bloody peacenics!!!
    Piss off and create your own scene, without latching onto the ones who actually were out there fighting and dying for the peace you now live in.

    If I see any of these gutless fools out selling, they`ll cop a heap of abuse that`s for bloody sure!
    I agree entirely with your sentiments.

    WW1 was a futile war but WW2 was wholly justified in getting rid of 3 pyschopathic regimes. If all of our forebears had bent over and taken it we likely wouldnt have been here now.

    Ive got no time for pacifist dogma and never will have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    I think it's cheap and contrived and disrespectful and cashing in on the sacrifices that makes it possible for them to have the freedom to be there in the first place. If any of them come near me they will get a gobful.

    A more suitable time and I'd probably buy one.
    Yes, they come across as just trying to get media exposure. Sadly, it reminded me of the anti-war protestors who spat on the soldiers returning from Vietnam in the US. I have no time for their white poppies.

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    say it with your wallets.
    dont buy the white poppies, and they will get the idea and fuk off. im pissed im working anzac parade morning (sunday). or i would have ridden to browns bay RSA. its where i was born and raised.
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    Wouldn't a yellow poppy be more suitable for their cause?

    They could pin them on their yellow bellies.

    I bet none of them have been to a conflict themselves. Just seen it on the TV. It's not the fucking same.
    It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.

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    The timing of this is not great in fact I will stop short of saying insensitive.

    As an ex Serviceman having served in three operational theatres. I do not fine the concept insulting at all. I'm not able to talk for others, however my personal time served and observations have changed my view on life.

    Service personnel are A Political. Ours is not to reason why, simply do or die.. If you agree or not, if you like it or not, the political masters dictate the terms and conditions and you are there to serve their rule. The vast majority of service personnel who have been exposed to the horrors and tragedies including the after affects are sickened by the actions generated at the direction of war - for what a piece of land? A few riches and mineral wealth? to allow a political positioning for future gain?

    I have talked to a number of guys serving in WWII, Korea, Vietnam as well as more recent conflicts and most disagree with war - Most are sickened by what they have seen and or done, again - for what?

    My 5c worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spajohn View Post
    ...where does the money go from the white poppy's? I assume the red one goes to the vet's which surely ANZAC day is all about remembering.
    Money from the RED POPPY appeal goes to the RSA's to help the returned servicemen and women.

    The people behind the white poppy sham are NOT a registered charity!

    Fuck, I look forward to seeing one of those fuckers on the street...
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