Police killing us again!

[Pixie]

"Safer Communities Together"

Right?

Better work stories?

[Coldrider]

I've noticed that some motorists approaching road works, are very slow at registering the fact that a vehicle in front of them may be stopped or close to stationary, even though they have seen the vehicle in front of them for quite a few seconds, when the penny drops that the countryside is not moving about that vehicle. Screeeeeh, I have been rear ended at such a place, brake lights and LED spoiler lights must be blinding.

[scumdog]

I've noticed that some motorists approaching road works, are very slow at registering the fact that a vehicle in front of them may be stopped or close to stationary, even though they have seen the vehicle in front of them for quite a few seconds, when the penny drops that the countryside is not moving about that vehicle. Screeeeeh, I have been rear ended at such a place, brake lights and LED spoiler lights must be blinding.

That's why I always 'pump' my brakes in those situations- hopefully the flashing brake lights DO get their attention and stop them ploughing into the rear of my bike/car whatever.

[scumdog]

The sad fact is that far too many motorcyclists (and, for that matter, road users in general) do not ride/drive giving anywhere near enough consideration to 'what if' scenarios.

If assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups, complacency is the father.

Woulda given you bling for that post if I could.

Spot on.

[MSTRS:Me]

I've noticed that some motorists approaching road works, are very slow at registering the fact that a vehicle in front of them may be stopped or close to stationary, even though they have seen the vehicle in front of them for quite a few seconds, when the penny drops that the countryside is not moving about that vehicle. Screeeeeh, I have been rear ended at such a place, brake lights and LED spoiler lights must be blinding.

Which shows how much attention people REALLY give to their driving...
Me...I don't brake (much) except when I'm stopping. Monkey behind doesn't see brakelights...

[Pixie]

Unfortunately the average ( bad ) kiwi driver probably doesn't see anything wrong with the cop's manoeuvre .
I am always amazed when I see ( and I have seen it many times) some idiot making a U-turn in heavy traffic,50 meters from a roundabout that would have afforded a safe alternative to achieve the same result.
Brains not engaged

[Coldrider]

Yes, but it takes longer to mind process something that is becoming an obstacle, rather than what presents itself as an immediate obstacle, thus increasing reaction times.

[Pixie]

There's only 3 people that might know exactly what happened:

1 of them is dead - RIP
1 them was so traumatised he was unable to operate a cellphone
1 them is a mysterious civilian passenger

The mysterious passenger was Tony Bliss gathering real world experience of RAM and GER

[bogan]

I'd like to think that experience with judging distances would get pretty good when your'e doing it all the time, so it's not completely unreasonable to accept that it can be done.
The issue of cameras in patrol cars is a good one, but again $$$ come into the equation and very few here (I'm sure) would want to contribute to the cost of it. Hell it might even mean that they get done - with evidence they can't wriggle out of. Also, there will always be situations where "the camera wasn't facing the right direction to show what happened" even if footage can give a reasonable indication of what might have happened.

I don't think $s comes into it too much, we seem happy enough to buy them the latest holdens , cameras aren't much in comparison. And they can do a lot, the UK has had ANPR for years now, one could even argue that better tech means you need less cops in the first place. I think it's more NZ's inability to change infrastructure etc to keep up with the times, seen in a number of industries.

[Pixie]

No-one denies they need to clean their act up in certain areas and the evidence may point to the police car being as you said. But this thread is also an insight into how nasty people can be, thats one of the regretable reactions.
Ive also also had a good relationship with the police, have only had traffic infringements and have never tried to intimidate them. On most occassions if you treat people with respect you usually get respect back

Maybe some are just sick of "do as we say not as we do" road safety bullshit?

[Smifffy]

The mysterious passenger was Tony Bliss gathering real world experience of RAM and GER

Is that a fact?

[Pixie]

Is that a fact?

Sure,
See my post in the RAM thread about Bliss being an alien economist

[Smifffy]

Sure,
See my post in the RAM thread about Bliss being an alien economist

I'm aware of who Tony Bliss is, but is it true that he was the mystery passenger on a Sunday afternoon fact-finding joyride, or were you just taking the piss?

[MarkH]

The sad fact is that far too many motorcyclists (and, for that matter, road users in general) do not ride/drive giving anywhere near enough consideration to 'what if' scenarios.

If assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups, complacency is the father.

I have to agree with that, it's hard to deny. I would also add to the road users in general also the police patrolling the roads - do that give enough consideration to 'what if' scenarios like 'what if a vehicle came over that crest as I tried to turn my car around to chase the speeder'.

[scumdog]

I don't think $s comes into it too much, we seem happy enough to buy them the latest holdens , cameras aren't much in comparison. And they can do a lot, the UK has had ANPR for years now, one could even argue that better tech means you need less cops in the first place. I think it's more NZ's inability to change infrastructure etc to keep up with the times, seen in a number of industries.

Of course having a few million more people is a good thing to help pay for ANPR etc...