Bucket rules (or lack, thereof)?

**gatch** · 27th April 2010, 22:15

Progress has been slow, busy with work, racing the dominator etc..

Bearings in the swingarms are still pretty solid, so no changes there. Soon will have some bosses welded into the swingarm, so a stand can be used and crash bungs can be screwed on. Might have a braided brake line for the front soon, so will flush the reservoir and calliper, hook it up etc.

Otherwise I can't do an awful lot more till I get a motor..

**koba** · 28th April 2010, 07:40

Originally Posted by gatch

Progress has been slow, busy with work, racing the dominator etc..

Bearings in the swingarms are still pretty solid, so no changes there. Soon will have some bosses welded into the swingarm, so a stand can be used and crash bungs can be screwed on. Might have a braided brake line for the front soon, so will flush the reservoir and calliper, hook it up etc.

Otherwise I can't do an awful lot more till I get a motor..

Have you settled on what that will be?

**gatch** · 28th April 2010, 17:42

Originally Posted by koba

Have you settled on what that will be?

Will go with a Loncin I think.

Can't be arsed with old second hand motors, finding bits, repairing fucked cylinders etc. Spending enough time fucking around with bits and pieces as it is haha.

Made some sweet crash bung holders today, at work, while doing another job on the mill.. Just got to glue the fuckers on now.

**koba** · 29th April 2010, 07:14

Originally Posted by gatch

Will go with a Loncin I think.

Can't be arsed with old second hand motors, finding bits, repairing fucked cylinders etc. Spending enough time fucking around with bits and pieces as it is haha.

Made some sweet crash bung holders today, at work, while doing another job on the mill.. Just got to glue the fuckers on now.

Good call.

Time to warm up the hot-glue gun!

**gatch** · 29th April 2010, 18:15

Originally Posted by koba

Good call.

Time to warm up the hot-glue gun!

I think I'll get one of the dudes at work to tig them on for me.. The swingarm wall thickness is about 1.6mm or so.. Last thing I want is to be repairing burn holes..

I was put onto a website that sells big bore cylinders for loncins

A short stroke motor may be on the cards haha.

**gatch** · 3rd May 2010, 17:25

How much work does the average bucket racer put into tuning suspension ? I ask because the sprung parts on the spada chassis are softer than the average waterbed..

It should feel firmer when the bike is finished, as it will be 30-40kg lighter than stock. But was wondering, if people put as much effort into suspension as they do the motors ?

Here's some things I've thought a little about (most/all probably already covered somewhere) and would like to look into.. The key factor in these ideas is they cost little to no money..
- Cutting fork/shock spring
- Different sae rating fork oils
- Pressurizing forks
- Altering dog-bone/triangle-link hole centres.
- Manufacturing a right height adjustment for the rear.

Any constructive correspondence is welcome

**saxet** · 3rd May 2010, 20:17

All of the above are not uncommon as some people put quite a bit of effort into making the bike handle.

**speedpro** · 3rd May 2010, 21:41

I've put a bit of effort into tuning the suspension. It's the same as anything else, measure twice - cut once. Get your bike all together and then measure sag at both ends and set that as per recommendations and then start playing with damping. Do NOT assume anything, like for instance that because you have swapped to a lighter engine you will need to make various changes. You may be surprised when you measure it.

**F5 Dave** · 4th May 2010, 10:37

Forget pressurising forks, it sucks. Also heavy oils are fine as long as there are no bumps & you can control the action to unfeasibly low. stick with 10 & just get out & ride the bike.

**gatch** · 10th May 2010, 22:02

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Forget pressurising forks, it sucks. Also heavy oils are fine as long as there are no bumps & you can control the action to unfeasibly low. stick with 10 & just get out & ride the bike.

Need a motor.. I"m on a zero dollar budget for the time being.. Hence I'm reading and reading about stuff. Just looking for things to do that may improve the handling some..

**scooute** · 11th May 2010, 17:04

Hi there I also have been on the bucket racing website and checked out the rules as Im keen as beans to get into this sport

it states no motorcross parts however I have seen pitbikes (on youtube) the same as one I just rebuilt running at mt wellington. Is this in their own time for fun or practise or can a 125cc air cooled 4 speed pitbike compete (once all the pokey bits etc are covered in Nylon and everything is plugged and tied down) I had planned to get a job (been working on that for ages

) and start saving to build a bike, if not maybe I will sell the pitbike and get me a bucket racer to work on and then race and some leathers

Also I am keen to come and check it out on the 15th but the website has no other details about the event like when and what is happening, Sidwyz has helped me out by telling me where to go and that practise starts at 9.30 on sat 15th but thats all I got to go on. Thanks a million to any help offerd!
Ride safe

**Henk** · 11th May 2010, 17:20

Gates usually open about 9, kick off about 9:30. Saturday open practice with pockets and motards if they turn up and Sunday practice from 9:30ish and racing from about 12.

**scooute** · 11th May 2010, 17:27

Originally Posted by Henk

Gates usually open about 9, kick off about 9:30. Saturday open practice with pockets and motards if they turn up and Sunday practice from 9:30ish and racing from about 12.

Thanks Henk, appreciate the help.

yay now I know what I need to do to get some practise in (prep my gear and bike) that'll help me work on skills whilst I save for a bucket yay... Bling for you!

Cant wait to check out the action!!!
Ride safe

**bucketracer** · 11th May 2010, 17:34

Originally Posted by scooute

I have seen pitbikes (on youtube) the same as one I just rebuilt running at mt wellington. Is this in their own time for fun or practise or can a 125cc air cooled 4 speed pitbike compete

Yes pit bikes are OK to compete, lots of good riders started on one..........nylon and lock wire yours, bring it along with some good strong riding gear and I am sure you would at John Conners discretion be allowed out for a bit of a trot around.

Otherwise you could come down Sunday and help out as a flaggy during the races.........

**scooute** · 11th May 2010, 17:45

Originally Posted by bucketracer

Yes pit bikes are OK to compete, lots of good riders started on one..........nylon and lock wire yours, bring it along with some good strong riding gear and I am sure you would at John Conners discretion be allowed out for a bit of a trot around.

Otherwise you could come down Sunday and help out as a flaggy during the races.........

IM IN!!!... sounds like a blast and will do anything to be involved (within reason before you all start with the strange propositions lol) Thanks for the advise, I have been researching what I need to do to make the bike safe for myself, other riders and the track just need to figure out how and I will get started asap. first step is to come down and have a look first hand... so I'll see you there (are there any entry fees at the gate? as I mentioned Im unemployed atm after a bit of a break from life

to ride my bike haha so low cost is key for me sadly will need warning to source funds if so

)