Motorcyclist hits 200kmh on State Highway 1

[bogan]

My jaw dropped reading the "2.5 second reaction time" today. WTF? How many of us would be here if this was true? Count out 2. 5 seconds, it's an age! Typical propaganda to give the drearie's & mouth breathers another bit of anti-bike rhetoric based on bullshit media sensationalism. Someone slap the knob who supplied the ammunition.

ahhh, they are obvioulsy judging that by how long it takes motorists to notice that the bloody trafics lights have changed color and you are sposed to stop now! Which article is that from, shud give them a rark up, 147m before reacting, what a crock.

[sinfull]

Nah that has to be so wrong, pretty sure it would only have taken the rider a split second of reaction time, to realise there was no point in slowing down !

[ManDownUnder]

It was me - made it on time too... I had an 11:15 appointment in the North Shore

[Blackflagged]

Why is this news?

Benifits Some to bring this up at present.

Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit told the Herald a crash at that velocity would be unsurvivable, and the rider's chance to react to an emergency in time would be cut dramatically.

[onearmedbandit]

Benifits Some to bring this up at present.

Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit told the Herald a crash at that velocity would be unsurvivable, and the rider's chance to react to an emergency in time would be cut dramatically.

I wonder if he thinks that hitting a stationary object at 100km/h is survivable?

[miloking]

For all we know this mystery bike is just like the 154km mystery ute (DOES NOT EXIST OR THE SPEED IS BS).....and all this is directive from above to soften up the public by implying the "bikers are menace" and they "all" ride dangerously before the Mr.Brown incident goes to court....
my point is if the only evidence of this bike is police unit as eye witness then why is this even in a paper?????

[Swoop]

My jaw dropped reading the "2.5 second reaction time" today. WTF?

Obviously the bullshit propaganda about "speed kills" is referring to the reaction times of people? You are not allowed to react swiftly...

Anyway, the Herald picture of the biker, is great!

[Bren]

Oh, it was not me...

The thing that pisses me off now are police in Otaki are now going to be "looking" for this rider, so now I will be under scrutiny....

[HenryDorsetCase]

I do not think that 200k+ speeds are what we should do in areas where other traffic is present. A empty road somwhere is not too bad. Most of us have done so.

But what I question is this quote from one of the articles: "Reaction time is 2.5 seconds which means 147m travelled before reacting." That statement is by Sergeant Stu Kearns of the Waitemata serious crash unit. Considering that "Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests." (Wikipedia), and considering that mean RT for college-age individuals is about 160 milliseconds to detect an auditory stimulus, and approximately 190 milliseconds to detect visual stimulus, his statement makes me think that it is all part of a conspiracy to grab any chance there is where a biker has acted wrongly, and then make it look even worse in the eye of the public.

As much as I disagree on a "standard" reaction time for us all, what is "normally" used when doing any calculations in crashes is a 1.5 second reaction time.

So either the Sergeant was alluding to his thoughts re the intelligence of the rider. Or perhaps he was using some standard that is used to pass prospective new police officers...

brilliant. send it to the meeeedia. see if you can get it published.

[nudemetalz]

Further developments:-

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...sguised-plates

"A speeding motorcyclist who blasted past police at 210kmh may have used temporary plates to disguise his identity.

The red Ducati bike was spotted heading south on State Highway 1 near Otaki by a police patrol car travelling north about 9.30am yesterday.

The police officer did not give chase, a police communications spokesman said. "By the time the officer turned around it was long gone. It gets a bit dangerous when you're trying to follow something at 210 kilometres an hour."

In January, motorcyclist Leith David Barnes, 28, died when he crashed after leading police through Johnsonville at speeds estimated at 150kmh.

Dan Renner, who works at Horowhenua Motorcycles in Levin, said he saw a man on a red Ducati speed past the shop just before 9.30am yesterday.

He was doing 80kmh in a 30kmh zone, he said. "He was already going pretty fast."

The motorcycle had D, or dealer, plates attached.

Shop owner Rob Budd said police had asked if the business had any bikes or D-plates missing, but it did not.

It was possible the plates on the bike were expired or stolen, Mr Budd said. "There are probably hundreds of them out there."

D-plates were used by dealers to deliver, demonstrate or test- drive cars or motorbikes that were not registered, or by repairers working on vehicles that could not be registered or licensed until the repair was completed.

Transport Agency spokesman Andy Knackstedt said about 6600 current D-plates were in circulation. "A person may only use a trade plate for the purpose for which it has been issued."

Expired plates were supposed to be handed in, but there were still some floating around, he said. Lost or stolen plates should be reported to police, and anyone misusing a D-plate could be charged with operating an unregistered vehicle.

Mr Knackstedt said a motorcyclist crashing at 210kmh would have little chance of survival. "The bike would travel 93 metres before the rider could even apply the brakes."

[PirateJafa]

Mr Knackstedt said a motorcyclist crashing at 210kmh would have little chance of survival. "The bike would travel 93 metres before the rider could even apply the brakes."

I like how they assume that anyone travelling over 200km/h is clearly paying the same amount of attention to their driving/riding as little ol' grandma in her Honda City. And of course nobody ever premptively covers the brakes either? That would be maaaaaad.

[shrub]

I'm assuming that he based that number on either personal experience (his reaction time) or on analysis of the average motorist. If so, I am going to lock my bike in the shed and never venture on the roads again. The thought that Mary Pajero takes 2.5 seconds to react to the red light in front of her, or that Constable Plodster takes 2.5 seconds to react to the passing ute is, frankly, terrifying. People who react that slowly should not be allowed in charge of mobility scooters, let alone 2 tonne blocks of steel and glass travelling at 30m per second.

As for the 272 m required to stop from 212 kmh, that's easy to beat - use the front brake as well as the back brake. And they may not have noticed, but bikes are less than 1m wide which mans they can go around or beside most hazards, unlike cars that have no choice but to hit said hazard.

Actually the thing that really worries me is that people who are so blatantly ignorant are supposed to be in charge of my safety on the road. Kind of like giving the surgeon's scalpal to a 1st year butchers apprentice.

[bogan]

Mr Knackstedt said a motorcyclist crashing at 210kmh would have little chance of survival. "The bike would travel 93 metres before the rider could even apply the brakes."

i wonder if joe public actually beleivs this crap (sad thing is they probly do ) does that mean at 100kmhr you have to wait 45m before applying the brakes?

In may cage doing 100 at night I had about 20m of warning before I hit a possum once (due to oncoming vehicle lights), in that time I managed to move my foot onto the brake, realise there was no way I could slow enough not to make a mess, and braking would have just dived the front and made it worse (so stopped myself applying the brakes), still made a fucking big dent in my number plate though, little bastard stuck his head up...

In any case, theres gotta be a lot of adrenaline and focus when you are doing 210kmhr, so using 1.6s reaction time is laughable.

[CookMySock]

The thing that pisses me off now are police in Otaki are now going to be "looking" for this rider, so now I will be under scrutiny....

Hehe, thats an excellent opportunity to give the fuzz some attitude. They can look you up and down and you can just blow them the raspberry!



Steve

[Fatjim]

i wonder if joe public actually beleivs this crap

Actually, joe public tends to believe all that is written in the media unless they have first or second hand knowledge of the facts.

99% of what is written in the media is BS. Unfortunately, the average person only has knowledge of about 1%.