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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerracer View Post
    165hp thats a joke it had 210hp how else could it pull me round that fast. Now Dom you left out the 2 hours of mowing lawns on my horrible hilly back yard, i spend hours lying on the couch watching the missis struglin her arse off mowin it

    Ha ha, she told me so, when we were talking about :YOU" ( Lazy ffffffer) and her new bike

    of course I bribed her with a drink to get her talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    but i want to be a fireman
    But, why don't you become a Fireman in the RNZAF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickbuck View Post
    But, why don't you become a Fireman in the RNZAF?


    That would be a brilliant idea for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    That would be a brilliant idea for him
    Thanks.
    Yes, there are many other benifits too, more than just the ones Neil pointed out.....

    All Ivan has to do is click on the Step Up link in my sig to have a look and a think....

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    Wicked im guna start stretching imagine how could I could crash then
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    CADIOVASCULAR is all you need!!!!!

    The very next time you finish a Qualify session and a race, have Doug take your pulse rate in the pit lane, so it has not settled before you do it, and then you need to train paying attention to your heart rate.

    Push your heart rate to 10 beats per minute above the sample DOUG took, and push it up there for at least 10 minutes longer than the average race time in NZ

    If you have oxygen in your blood, your muscle will be fine, but MOST IMPORTANT, so will your brain, the brain needs food 100%, and the physicall side of racing bikes, is a 100% less than the mental effort required.


    NEXT IS STRECHING

    Go find a GYM with lots of good looking girlies, and settle in for an hour 3x a week doing streching

    Makes you more nimble, and a whole lot better at dealing with crashes.

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    Ivan, your kinda stuck alittle as you have to build muscle mass and strength for your job, but bike racing is quite different where you want lean muscle with not outright strength but repeditive strength movements and balance strength. Shaun is right I believe as Cardio is No1 for roadracing. If you did Motocross, going to a gym would be good but most motocrossers are alot bulkier than road boys(except gixxerracer). At the gym, see if you can do a oxygen max test I think it called or something like that. It where you max out your heart rate on a cycle machine. Then from there you have a baseline to train in. Say for example my max is 202(4 years ago), then if your heart rate is within 15% of that, you are getting max efficentiency on cardio workout. When I use to run a heart rate monitor, I could run at 180+ for like 10 mins on my MTB. You can only do it for so long and then the rest of the 1 hour ride I try to stay round 160. At 1st I felt like chucking and heart wanted to explode and I would get lite headed but after a couple of times your body adapts because you heart and lungs can start handling it. I reckon MTB is awesome for training as you get your heart rate up way higher than road cycling, it more of a full body workout and you develop greater balance and balance strength from obstacles and stop/start acceleration and decceleration. The group of us that go all the time significantly improved fitness and it helped greatly on the track. The main thing about training to push your body to make it efficent, don't just cruise. Also make sure you rest your body at least one day a week as when you muscles havn't got enough rest, they don't develop as they are trying recover and your training becomes less of a benefit. Over time you will feel your body telling you this and know to cut back, take a easy day or day off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerracer View Post
    Wicked im guna start stretching imagine how could I could crash then


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    CADIOVASCULAR is all you need!!!!!

    The very next time you finish a Qualify session and a race, have Doug take your pulse rate in the pit lane, so it has not settled before you do it, and then you need to train paying attention to your heart rate.

    Push your heart rate to 10 beats per minute above the sample DOUG took, and push it up there for at least 10 minutes longer than the average race time in NZ

    If you have oxygen in your blood, your muscle will be fine, but MOST IMPORTANT, so will your brain, the brain needs food 100%, and the physicall side of racing bikes, is a 100% less than the mental effort required.


    NEXT IS STRECHING

    Go find a GYM with lots of good looking girlies, and settle in for an hour 3x a week doing streching

    Makes you more nimble, and a whole lot better at dealing with crashes.
    Cheers Shaun that is something I will do next weekend. Thats actually a really really good way of working out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom View Post
    Ivan, your kinda stuck alittle as you have to build muscle mass and strength for your job, but bike racing is quite different where you want lean muscle with not outright strength but repeditive strength movements and balance strength. Shaun is right I believe as Cardio is No1 for roadracing. If you did Motocross, going to a gym would be good but most motocrossers are alot bulkier than road boys(except gixxerracer). At the gym, see if you can do a oxygen max test I think it called or something like that. It where you max out your heart rate on a cycle machine. Then from there you have a baseline to train in. Say for example my max is 202(4 years ago), then if your heart rate is within 15% of that, you are getting max efficentiency on cardio workout. When I use to run a heart rate monitor, I could run at 180+ for like 10 mins on my MTB. You can only do it for so long and then the rest of the 1 hour ride I try to stay round 160. At 1st I felt like chucking and heart wanted to explode and I would get lite headed but after a couple of times your body adapts because you heart and lungs can start handling it. I reckon MTB is awesome for training as you get your heart rate up way higher than road cycling, it more of a full body workout and you develop greater balance and balance strength from obstacles and stop/start acceleration and decceleration. The group of us that go all the time significantly improved fitness and it helped greatly on the track. The main thing about training to push your body to make it efficent, don't just cruise. Also make sure you rest your body at least one day a week as when you muscles havn't got enough rest, they don't develop as they are trying recover and your training becomes less of a benefit. Over time you will feel your body telling you this and know to cut back, take a easy day or day off.

    Cheers Dom for that
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    Bounce god a bro. LOL If i was a stick insect like the DOM i would have been boroken in half more than once this season there is some advantages in being phat
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixerracer View Post
    Bounce god a bro. LOL If i was a stick insect like the DOM i would have been boroken in half more than once this season there is some advantages in being phat

    Or you might have walked walked away with less pain and time it took to heal


    Dom stick insect? There are a few funny photos of that drinker/spewer floating around at the moment, some where in Ch Ch one night I think Ha hahaha

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    I been looking at that AirForce Fire Bregade I actually am quite keen on that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maido View Post
    How to be an athlete.....
    What die my Beard Peroxide BLonde lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    I been looking at that AirForce Fire Bregade I actually am quite keen on that

    Look DEEP DEEP into it mate! A it would be an honour for you to rep your country like that, apart from that, look at the $$$$$$$$$$$$ and the comradship

    How old before you get to retire? And on what kind a money package?

    Think Long and hard about it Ivan, Bike racing is fantastic, but only fun, unless you have that little bit of extra that Stroud and Sketchill have, and take it further, and you know me well enough to know I am not bagging you MATE!!!!!
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