Where do you want to see motorcycling heading?

[rwh]

I agree with OAB that I don't see much negativity towards me as a biker.

I wonder though whether things like the ACC and cheesecutter campaigns, while seen as positive by many, might also be seen by others as whinging by people who choose to ride dangerous machines and complain when they get hurt.

My thought is to start an organisation that isn't seen as just a political effort like BRONZ, but a more all-encompassing group like the AA. Roadside rescue services, with smiling uniformed mechanics with glinting Vince Martyn teeth. Similar types of people running riding schools, from a large organisation that parents can't help but trust their kids with (no offence to all the existing well-run and professional riding schools - but I don't see them day to day). Obviously that would cost a lot of money, and couldn't be started in that state from day one, but could hopefully be developed from, say, a nationwide network of contracted garages, the way the AA operates out of the main centres. It could probably be helped along by a bunch of contributing dealers, since it should help all of them with sales.

But hey, maybe I'm talking rubbish. And I'm probably going to sell up soon and go back to the bus anyway :-(

Richard

[oldrider]

I agree with OAB that I don't see much negativity towards me as a biker.

I wonder though whether things like the ACC and cheesecutter campaigns, while seen as positive by many, might also be seen by others as whinging by people who choose to ride dangerous machines and complain when they get hurt.

My thought is to start an organisation that isn't seen as just a political effort like BRONZ, but a more all-encompassing group like the AA. Roadside rescue services, with smiling uniformed mechanics with glinting Vince Martyn teeth. Similar types of people running riding schools, from a large organisation that parents can't help but trust their kids with (no offence to all the existing well-run and professional riding schools - but I don't see them day to day). Obviously that would cost a lot of money, and couldn't be started in that state from day one, but could hopefully be developed from, say, a nationwide network of contracted garages, the way the AA operates out of the main centres. It could probably be helped along by a bunch of contributing dealers, since it should help all of them with sales.

But hey, maybe I'm talking rubbish. And I'm probably going to sell up soon and go back to the bus anyway :-(

Richard

Nothing wrong with your reasoning but

Why not join up with the established organisations and help mould them into the one size fits all organisation that you want. (and maybe what we need)

Otherwise all you end up with a whole lot more fractious groups pulling at their own strings to the benefit of nobody. I.E. the status quo!

Admittedly, the AA should be able do it but hey, they "are" the enemy! Maybe you are correct!

[Katman]

Coming up on the news is an article on the possibility that the government could eventually impose a total ban on smoking.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to think that they couldn't possibly consider doing the same to motorcycling.

[Smifffy]

You will find that was a slogan of the NZ sporting shooters association.

Thanks. Do you know if they ever got the kind of political clout they were after?

[Berries]

Coming up on the news is an article on the possibility that the government could eventually impose a total ban on smoking.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to think that they couldn't possibly consider doing the same to motorcycling.

That is some serious lateral thinking alright. People don't die of passive motorcycling - unless you call them pillions. I don't know what the stats are for smokers, but I bet many of them die of smoking related illnesses, or illnesses compounded by their smoking. Now if most riders died of motorcycling related injuries then I believe the things would have been banned years ago. They don't, I bet more riders die of smoking related illnesses.

[Katman]

Did you ever think the government would step in and say you're not allowed to smack your child?

[Bald Eagle]

. And I'm probably going to sell up soon and go back to the bus anyway :-(

That would be a shame

[Katman]

That would be a shame

Indeed.

We need every sensible motorcyclist counted amongst our numbers at the moment.

[98tls]

Indeed.

We need every sensible motorcyclist counted amongst our numbers at the moment.

Problem there fella is the supposed sensible motorcyclists hide behind a veil of "poker runs for worthy causes wearing born again goatees pretending to be the heart of all things motorcycling shaking there heads at the actions of the "other kind of riders" .Once that lot has given it away methinks public perception may well start to change.From my experiance there the loudest to rant on re ACC/accidents blah blah blah but when they decide to don the leathers and wheel the barge outta the garage there the first to attempt to ride like Foggy causing no end of carnage,worse still influencing others.

[peasea]

Problem there fella is the supposed sensible motorcyclists hide behind a veil of "poker runs for worthy causes wearing born again goatees pretending to be the heart of all things motorcycling shaking there heads at the actions of the "other kind of riders" .Once that lot has given it away methinks public perception may well start to change.From my experiance there the loudest to rant on re ACC/accidents blah blah blah but when they decide to don the leathers and wheel the barge outta the garage there the first to attempt to ride like Foggy causing no end of carnage,worse still influencing others.

Fuckin sportsbike riders..................

[peasea]

Coming up on the news is an article on the possibility that the government could eventually impose a total ban on smoking.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to think that they couldn't possibly consider doing the same to motorcycling.

I think I could sing "Advance Australia Fair" convincingly.

[98tls]

Fuckin sportsbike riders..................

Amen,on said poker run there i am bored though somewhat content knowing my boredom is for a worthy cause when in the distance i hear what cant be anything but a Sporty at max rpm approaching,a look in the mirror saw my theory true and fearing being made headless by an escaping piston i buttoned off,sadly said Sporty had reached its peak at the same moment a cage came over the oncoming mound in the road and for just a moment i had the pleasure of watching a man and his booze hag preparing for the afterlife,much like there lives to date they did absolutly nothing except attempt to expel there eyeballs from there place of natural residence so i was forced to make room in order for the guy to swerve my way,that itself almost resulted in his end and the resulting view from behind when he hit the gravel was pretty exciting for all concerned.

[peasea]

Amen,on said poker run there i am bored though somewhat content knowing my boredom is for a worthy cause when in the distance i hear what cant be anything but a Sporty at max rpm approaching,a look in the mirror saw my theory true and fearing being made headless by an escaping piston i buttoned off,sadly said Sporty had reached its peak at the same moment a cage came over the oncoming mound in the road and for just a moment i had the pleasure of watching a man and his booze hag preparing for the afterlife,much like there lives to date they did absolutly nothing except attempt to expel there eyeballs from there place of natural residence so i was forced to make room in order for the guy to swerve my way,that itself almost resulted in his end and the resulting view from behind when he hit the gravel was pretty exciting for all concerned.

Where was this poker run?

[98tls]

Where was this poker run?

Started at the Galleon pub in Oamaru,headed out on the coast road to Maheno pub then inland to Duntroon pub blah blah blah.You on the Sporty?

[peasea]

Started at the Galleon pub in Oamaru,headed out on the coast road to Maheno pub then inland to Duntroon pub blah blah blah.You on the Sporty?

I don't think so, wash your keyboard out with soap. Nah, just curious. Hey ya get dickwads wherever you go. Was at a pissup Saturday and this guy was ranting about how fast he rides his Duke. Whatever..... Anyway, he pulls out his phone and shows us a pic of his near-off. He'd come round a corner too fast and gone on the wrong side of the l/h armco. Knob; why would you boast about shit like that, let alone take pics of the bike many metres up the wrong side of an armco? (And show them at a party ffs!) Got me fucked.