Two seriously injured in motorcycle crash near Blenheim (23 May)

[Conquiztador]

Typical Katman..........................you think you know you are so god damn right whenever there is thread about some unfortunate accident involving a biker, you have to be such a cock to criticise the rider at fault or accident was caused by the vechile at fault. No matter how good your theory on how we should ride our bikes. Accidents happen.....get over it man!!!!
One day (god forbid) if you are involve in a accident on your prissy Katanasaurus Rex, some people on here will tell you
...........................I told you so. Why dont you for once show some sort of compassion to the unfortunate biker involved in the accident, instead of preaching your point of view in relation to how we bikers should behave on our bikes.
Motorcycles are not the easiest machines to ride, even if you are as good as Valentino Rossi !!!!
Remember Katman when you spout how good your theory on how we should ride our bike safely.......what goes around comes around . One day..... you might not be so lucky, its called Karma
I rest my case.

Easy big fulla. You are giving him a hardon.

[CookMySock]

And if said turning car is suddenly turning right to get to a vineyard, to go up someones drive or to stop at a picnic spot? How does the motorcyclist prepare for that ya daft bugger..???

Same way every other motorist does - DON'T PASS THERE. It's not rocket science. It's dangerous and illegal. You're a professional driver scumdog, you are supposed to know this crap.

Too many times I have almost been bitten by this one thing ;

- when overtaking stay very near the centreline - you have the most options on the centreline. DON'T go really wide when passing, coz if you get a turn-right in your path there is jack-all you can do about it. On the centreline you can do nothing and get away with it.

- if you can see a vehicle entrance coming up and the car in front of you has the opportunity to use that entrance then DONT PASS.

- when you are the one doing the turning right into a side road, be ever vigilant of your right mirror.

- when turning right onto the road from a side road, be ever vigilant for the concealed overtaking vehicle.

Steve

[Katman]

Blah, blah, blah.............

Good luck with that staying alive business.

[Iggy]

Good luck with that staying alive business.

Like you care???..........................NOT.

[Iggy]

Easy big fulla. You are giving him a hardon.

That wasnt my intention

[Katman]

To be honest I'm sitting here stunned.

The overtaking vehicle colliding with the right turning vehicle travelling in the same direction is one of the most common accident scenarios out there.

And you all sit here scratching your heads?

Sometimes I despair.

[CookMySock]

To be honest I'm sitting here stunned.

The overtaking vehicle colliding with the right turning vehicle travelling in the same direction is one of the most common accident scenarios out there.

And you all sit here scratching your heads?

Sometimes I despair.

Whut? You overtake things? It's dangerous you know!


Steve

[Kickaha]

Why dont you for once show some sort of compassion to the unfortunate biker involved in the accident,.

What about the driver of the car? or doesn't he count because he's not on a bike?

[Iggy]

What about the driver of the car? or doesn't he count because he's not on a bike?

Oops....point taken.....you are right, you got me there.

[mashman]

To be honest I'm sitting here stunned.

The overtaking vehicle colliding with the right turning vehicle travelling in the same direction is one of the most common accident scenarios out there.

And you all sit here scratching your heads?

Sometimes I despair.

I've never seen or heard of anyone experiencing this before, please forgive my utter ignorance (which of course you won't )... perhaps that should be your focus... showing the factual information on common motorcycle crashes, so that we can make wiser decisions in the light of there, MAYBE, being no brake lights (or broken), no indication (or broken), no slowing of traffic and no other visible signs that the traffic ahead is about to do anything other than keep on in a straight line... hence the decision to overtake... but I do agree more of a description is needed and with 3 other bikes involved i'm sure the truth will out... albeit if it's not the bikers fault you'll likely never hear about the incident again.

[Dave Lobster]

What about the driver of the car? or doesn't he count because he's not on a bike?

He's at fault for not using his mirror before changing his position on the road. Had he used his mirror, he would have seen the motorcyclist.
He didn't use it. He hit him.

[Kickaha]

He's at fault for not using his mirror before changing his position on the road. Had he used his mirror, he would have seen the motorcyclist.
He didn't use it. He hit him.

How do you know that? were you there and did you see the accident? , did you see the car driver not check his mirror? sounds like more bullshit excuses to place the blame on the car driver because we all know motorcyclists can do no wrong

[Dave Lobster]

How do you know that? were you there and did you see the accident? , did you see the car driver not check his mirror? sounds like more bullshit excuses to place the blame on the car driver because we all know motorcyclists can do no wrong

Ok.. let's go with your theory.
Driver checks mirror, sees motorcyclist, turns, knocks motorcyclist off.
That's attempted murder, isn't it?

[Kickaha]

Ok.. let's go with your theory.
Driver checks mirror, sees motorcyclist, turns, knocks motorcyclist off.
That's attempted murder, isn't it?

Senior Constable Maurice Horne of Havelock Police said a green car was turning right off SH6 into Norths Rd when the motor cycle, which was overtaking another vehicle travelling towards Blenheim, ``ploughed'' into the right side of the vehicle.

Driver check mirrors, doesn't see motorcyclist hidden from veiw by following car as he iniates turn motorcyclist wondering why these dickheads in front of him are going so slow pops out from behind following car carrying considerably more speed and slams into him

You could play this game all day, reality is neither of us know all the facts or who is to blame, but passing a car across and intersection? do you really think that is wise?

[Goblin]

The only fact here is they were on a Harley Davidson. There's the problem.



I do seriously hope they both make a speedy recovery.