Pre89 Senior YSS Suspension FZR1000, Vic R1

[Robert Taylor]

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You did mention other brands, but you certainly dont see them as the equal of ohlins, and while you dont dismiss them as you do YSS, you are quick to go into technobabble mode to point out why ohlins is better.

"have also told him that he would go better with better suspension"

You obviously dont think much of his racing experience and skill if you felt the need to pass this bit of wisdom on.
He's not 5 yrs old, he knows better suspension, better tyres, better leathers, better etc etc etc, or a big bag of money, will all contribute to making his times better.
Anybody who has raced for more than 5 minutes knows all of this.

Everyone knows Ohlins produce some of the worlds top suspension systems.
Anyone buying YSS and thinking they are getting Ohlins are deluded.
These are self evident.
All Glen has basically said is he's running YSS, went OK, a few adjustments it went better, room for improvement.
No mention of Ohlins, no veiled references to ohlins, no reference to any higher priced units. Someone asked how much and he replied.
You on the other hand climb straight in boots and all and go into great detail as to whats wrong with YSS, complete with examples of customer dissatisfaction, basically rubbishing them as pretenders, trying to make a cheap copy of Ohlins and making a hash of it. Swedish and German steel, assembled in Sweden etc, compared to a slave labour, sweat shop factory in Thailand, steel and ali from the local scrap yard, all in a corrupt country on the brink of civil war.
And by association anyone using YSS, including GW, is a muppet who wouldnt know if the sun was shining.

Your Suspension Sucks
Hey thats better than my slang! Laughing my head off right now

That comment speaks volumes about you
But hey, I am sure anyone remotely considering YSS has been scared off and you phone will be ringing hot with orders.
Or maybe people will look up YSS on the web, have read, have a think, ask a couple of questions, and make their minds up for themselves.

Your anti YSS rant has probably helped them more than you would like!!
You never know.

Total over-reaction on your part as you clearly want to think the worst out of what I have said. You will note for example that I also came up with ( well somebody else did years ago ) a self effacing and uncomplimentary acronym for Ohlins. Thats called humour and I think most people would have accepted it in the spirit it was given.
I have now had a number of these Thai shocks apart and frankly that reinforces my findings that they cut corners in certain areas, as do many other mid price manufacturers such as oem Sachs etc. Have you had some apart?
People are as free to choose mediocrity as they are top shelf stuff. I say again, marketing it as ''World class suspension'' is really pushing it.

[crazy man]

only 2 secs slower than Doug Polan 125 hp ducati in 92! lol ducatis rulzs a gsvr

[codgyoleracer]

Perhaps you need to take some lessons on starts with Ernie Cubby, he had a demon start in the second race.....

Yeah Ernies reaction speeds were pretty impressive aye ! , followed him around in practice and he is still one very smoooooooth rider/operator.

[codgyoleracer]

Very impressive lap times for your first meeting and on a damp track.
Well done, but don't get too much faster OK.

Good advice Pete, time to slow down and defer some attention...............

[codgyoleracer]

Be aware glen ill have secret weapon for round 2 AKA towrope.You may still win but not by much.

Secret weapon sounds just fine.............. A tow rope means that you are still behind me after all aye ......... :-) (i'll bring a nice looooooong one for the next round)

[CHOPPA]

What lap times were the WSBKs running around in 89-90? Someone told me they were doing 4s!!!??? Its sorta believable as the track would have been in prob better condition and world class riders, factory bikes etc

[nzkr1]

Yeah Ernies reaction speeds were pretty impressive aye ! , followed him around in practice and he is still one very smoooooooth rider/operator.

It was such a blatant jump start I lost concentration and stuffed up my own start, and I even think that other FZR cocked up his start too and launched his front wheel at me

[Shaun]

Not once have I bagged your ability to tune suspension, this thread is about YSS and Glen doing well because of it. YSS is obviously a cheaper alternative to Ohlin’s, Penske and WP only because manufacturing and assembly takes place in Thailand. I believe that the engineers behind YSS have come from some of those other high profile suspension manufactures to make the product what it is, world class.
Having competed at quite a few meetings over the last few years I have observed your performance, and would like to say that your product and service are totally out of my league. I would also imagine that a lot of the other racers who aren’t factory backed and have limited funds would feel the same. We need someone to possibly fill that gap. I hardly think that you would have the time to advise suspension set up to everyone in the pits and especially to someone who is using 21 year old suspension.

So all you have to do, is come and talk to me at the race track

[Peter Smith]

Good advice Pete, time to slow down and defer some attention...............

And never, ever mention the word "suspension" in any more threads. You should have known better. Shame on you.

[Peter Smith]

What lap times were the WSBKs running around in 89-90? Someone told me they were doing 4s!!!??? Its sorta believable as the track would have been in prob better condition and world class riders, factory bikes etc

The local lad's Tony Rees and Russel J were doing 1:10's-11's

1988: The fastest lap from race 1 at Manfield from WSBK was Fred Merkel 1m 16.12s, wet race. Race 2 Stephane Mertens 1m 11.26s on slicks on a drying track.
1989: Race 1, Mike Dowson 1m 15.57s wet. Race 2, Aaron Slight 1m 08.17s dry.
1990: Race 1, Terry Rymer 1m 08.48s, Race 2, Rob Phillis and Raymond Roche
1m 08.39s.
1992: Race 1, Aaron Slight 1m 07.38s, Race 2, Doug Polen 1m 06.97s.

[Robert Taylor]

So all you have to do, is come and talk to me at the race track

Good point Shaun, I should have mentioned your involvement. Shaun as an ex racer and development rider par excellence is more than capable of providing help and advice re suspension and setup and anything beyond that. We ( CKT ) totally endorse and reccommend his skills. And it matters not what suspension you use!

In another post a term was used ''speaks volumes''. If I can borrow that term what Id like to ''speak volumes'' about is that I have reservations about anything that effectively lowers standards in the name of lower prices. But as I also said each to their own, we will work on almost all brands and do so on a daily basis.

[codgyoleracer]

only 2 secs slower than Doug Polan 125 hp ducati in 92! lol ducatis rulzs a gsvr

Plenty of speed left yet then......... Dont ya just hate people that have natural talent........ :-)

[roadracingoldfart]

The local lad's Tony Rees and Russel J were doing 1:10's-11's

1988: The fastest lap from race 1 at Manfield from WSBK was Fred Merkel 1m 16.12s, wet race. Race 2 Stephane Mertens 1m 11.26s on slicks on a drying track.
1989: Race 1, Mike Dowson 1m 15.57s wet. Race 2, Aaron Slight 1m 08.17s dry.
1990: Race 1, Terry Rymer 1m 08.48s, Race 2, Rob Phillis and Raymond Roche
1m 08.39s.
1992: Race 1, Aaron Slight 1m 07.38s, Race 2, Doug Polen 1m 06.97s.

And i was doing .17s in the dry on a pretty fast RC30 lol. That thing of Pollens was fast but a grenede recipe engine , same as R.Roache's 888 bike a few years earlier , you can still smell the crank whisp in the ashpalt from his massive middle straight explosion. Mind you , he was half a lap ahead after just 3 laps so it was expected lol.


Paul.

[steveyb]

Are you seriously, now I mean seriously, trying to tell us that the older you get the faster you were?
;-)

[codgyoleracer]

Are you seriously, now I mean seriously, trying to tell us that the older you get the faster you were?
;-)

Whats important Steve is that he was faster than you ................... :-)