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[The Pastor]

Only if supply is insufficient to meet demand. Of course by then we'll have hopefully made the move to renewable energy sources so prices should stabilise.

I wish i had your optimism

[bogan]

I wish i had your optimism

in other countries it might work, but in this one theres always a bunch of whinging hippies willing to oppose hydrodams, wind farms, and the conventional ones as well of course.

[imdying]

You missed my point. How many people do you know that do 160km worth of commuting in a single day?

I know of over one hundred thousand in one city alone, although some of them go a little less, and some a little more, than 160km.

[R6_kid:Me]

I know of over one hundred thousand in one city alone, although some of them go a little less, and some a little more, than 160km.

Bugger that. What city would that be?

I wish i had your optimism

Most of Northern Europe is already going that way. Once I get my shit together and start earning a fair bit more than $40k a year I hope to end up with a property where I can generate most of my electrictity needs without the need to draw from the national grid. It'll take a bit of thinking and some dedication but in the grand scheme of things it's not that hard.

in other countries it might work, but in this one theres always a bunch of whinging hippies willing to oppose hydrodams, wind farms, and the conventional ones as well of course.

Yep, good ol' NZ, where we're clean and green - unless it's not natural or doesn't fit with the landscape, in which case we'll stick to coal or gas fired power stations.

[Urano]

I hope to end up with a property where I can generate most of my electrictity needs without the need to draw from the national grid. It'll take a bit of thinking and some dedication but in the grand scheme of things it's not that hard.

i agree.
using a little brain today is possible to have solutions for almost all the needs.
heating/cooling needs could be satisfied with statothermal (uhm... statothermal... i don't know if it's the right word... anyway: those probes to put down in the earth till a hundred meters under the houses...), electrical could be coped with solar or wind, remains the gas to cook... but you have no sympathy for gas kitchens, so i think that electrical could be a good solution too..

Yep, good ol' NZ, where we're clean and green - unless it's not natural or doesn't fit with the landscape, in which case we'll stick to coal or gas fired power stations.

actually...
it's a bit surprising to me... you are so green oriented, so concerned about environment and you use coat and oil?
same as your politics about public transport: i expected a huge railway net, easy train transport, subways, city services...
it's something i understand from the fuckin italy, not you...

[bogan]

actually...
it's a bit surprising to me... you are so green oriented, so concerned about environment and you use coat and oil?
same as your politics about public transport: i expected a huge railway net, easy train transport, subways, city services...
it's something i understand from the fuckin italy, not you...

yeh, the whole green oriented thing is a tourist ploy I reckon, all the hydro and wind shit is just done cos its cheap, so is coal, so we have both, public tranport ain't cheap and removes fuel tax revenue, so what we have is shit! bikers getting shafted for the same reason. But still tell all your friends how clean and green it is over here, we need the tourism dollars :P

[BMWST?]

Bugger that. What city would that be?



Most of Northern Europe is already going that way. Once I get my shit together and start earning a fair bit more than $40k a year I hope to end up with a property where I can generate most of my electrictity needs without the need to draw from the national grid. It'll take a bit of thinking and some dedication but in the grand scheme of things it's not that hard.



Yep, good ol' NZ, where we're clean and green - unless it's not natural or doesn't fit with the landscape, in which case we'll stick to coal or gas fired power stations.

its been done....i saw a magazine once(handyman?) where the motor from a gentle annie is used as a generator(alternator?) in a small hydro power station.Some solar water heating,led lights,solar panels/batteries/windmill, and a pellet burner or high efficiency wood burner and you would be right.Cooking would be a pain unless you microwaved everything