When is "cordura" not Cordura?

[Quasievil]

So it was $599 and now they are clearing them out for $200. Is there any reason or just wanting to clear the decks for new stock?

BWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I sell my Viper jacket for $465 RRP $1,000.000.00 now thats a deal !!

[vindy500]

BWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I sell my Viper jacket for $465 RRP $1,000.000.00 now thats a deal !!

Seeing as youve knocked so much off, surely another $400 wouldnt hurt?

[Quasievil]

Cheaper jackets that reside on TM are Not actually Genuine Dupont Cordura they are a Fake copy material brought from Asia, Many sellers on Trademe have no issue in declaring it as Cordura when its not however.
An Accurate description would be Polyester outer shell, or possibly a Nylon outer shell, the use of the word Cordura is likely to be B.S

[1tonne]

Nylon Cordura used in many high quality motorcycle garments as it is a strong, abrasion resistant material.

Why is it that every time there is a 1Tonne product on Kiwi biker, the opposition has to pipe up. He only tries to drag other brands down to lift himself up. Why cant the opposition build his own brand by letting his customers do the talking. That is what I do. My customers put a lot of good comments on Kiwibiker but not long after, the opposition will always try to drag the products down in one way or another. He can't help himself. It is not an honourable thing to do. I myself would not lower myself to do this.
My brand builds itself as people get to know of our quality. They then comment to other bikers about our quality and so therefore our brand grows. I do not drag other brands down. I have never commented on the oppositions garments as that would not be the right thing to do.
Our quality is exceptional and our service is brilliant too. Check out our feedback http://www.1tonne.co.nz/feedback/
The opposition needs to be more careful as he is damaging his own business by being petty. Q should keep to his own threads.

[Quasievil]

Nylon Cordura used in many high quality motorcycle garments as it is a strong, abrasion resistant material.

Why is it that every time there is a 1Tonne product on Kiwi biker, the opposition has to pipe up. He only tries to drag other brands down to lift himself up. Why cant the opposition build his own brand by letting his customers do the talking. That is what I do. My customers put a lot of good comments on Kiwibiker but not long after, the opposition will always try to drag the products down in one way or another. He can't help himself. It is not an honourable thing to do. I myself would not lower myself to do this.
My brand builds itself as people get to know of our quality. They then comment to other bikers about our quality and so therefore our brand grows. I do not drag other brands down. I have never commented on the oppositions garments as that would not be the right thing to do.
Our quality is exceptional and our service is brilliant too. Check out our feedback http://www.1tonne.co.nz/feedback/
The opposition needs to be more careful as he is damaging his own business by being petty. Q should keep to his own threads.

Who said I was even talking about you, sorry but I wasnt. But seen you think so, fact is that this jacket of yours isnt Cordura it is a fake cordura, so again you mislead the market with false advertising which is something you adopt so readily even if only the B.S RRP claims, and professional race suits claims
Honour lol, funny !!

I am and have been involved on KB for 7 years, and am active on many threads actually. Unlike you.

Dont you need to go and pay Shaun some more money ???

[Shaun]

Who said I was even talking about you, sorry but I wasnt. But seen you think so, fact is that this jacket of yours isnt Cordura it is a fake cordura, so again you mislead the market with false advertising which is something you adopt so readily even if only the B.S RRP claims, and professional race suits claims
Honour lol, funny !!

I am and have been involved on KB for 7 years, and am active on many threads actually. Unlike you.

Dont you need to go and pay Shaun some more money ???

I will accept any money, from any company that I choose to support there product, ( I trust 1tonne product) thanks for pointing out that I DO SUPPORT www.1tonne.co.nz

Keep up the good work Nathan

[1tonne]

I am and have been involved on KB for 7 years, and am active on many threads actually. Unlike you.

Are you trying to make yourself sound important?

Not worth replying to you as customers know that your are opposition and most kiwi bikers know your personality.

[Quasievil]

Are you trying to make yourself sound important?

Not worth replying to you as customers know that your are opposition and most kiwi bikers know your personality.

you cant reply as Im right you mean, look at the latest advert in Motorcycle trader mag

Cordura sports pants....600 denier Cordura (no comprimises) *800 Denier Cordura on the Hips.............

That is false advertising and misuse of a trademark i.e. Cordura.

You can Bullshit the market mate, but you aint sucking me into it, frankly im tired of it as are many in the industry so best clean yourself up.

[1tonne]

Don't worry there are a few people that seem to this on KB. I wont bother supporting people/companies who indulge in such behaviour and I know alot of my mates feel the same way!

Thanks for your support. It is much appreciated. Cheers.

[flyingcrocodile46]

No probs. At the end of the day if someone say's that you are faslely advertising a product and they believe that they have proof then they should take you to court. If they're not prepared to do so then they need to STFU not prance around on an internet forum defaming other companies!!

I disagree. It is not always practical to take court action to address things that are not right. It must be ever so satisfying to live in a black and white world like yours, but the great majority of us don't. Debate and discussion is healthy (part of the education process), stifling it is not. Thanks for your opinion but as it appears very close minded I shall be ignoring it.

[Maha]

About a year ago I started a thread on the issue of slagging off.
A member who works in the Motorcycle gear industry was forever slagging Quasi's gear.
I thought then, and I still think now, that kind of carry on is bullshit.
Both 1tonne and Quasi are trying to make a living in a tough industry.
Thier gear aint the best on the market (they would both like to think it is) but there is better, but they both offer another option, thats all.
As for quality? I have own a couple of Quasi items and can honestly say that the product was well made.
To see two businessmen react like they do on here because of one has said is, quite frankly, laughable.

[1tonne]

I thought then, and I still think now, that kind of carry on is bullshit. To see two businessmen react like they do on here because of one has said is, quite frankly, laughable.

I agree. I do not like this type of carry on either. I believe that the industry is big enough for the both of us.

[Quasievil]

I love it, good way to tell a small part of the market about what crap gets sold on Trademe under B.S and misleading hype, that was my point originally.

and Im not wrong.

[nadroj]

Quasi - I have always thought your product was good and I have attempted to support you as you have supported others on this site, however your actions today are such that your "godliness" has disappeared. I have looked at your gear on trade stands and at your house but have been unable to find the fit to my liking. I'm sorry but I will not be pursuing any more interest in your product - please remove me from your mailing list.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Quasi - I have always thought your product was good and I have attempted to support you as you have supported others on this site, however your actions today are such that your "godliness" has disappeared.

Gee that seems a bit unfair. I have been following the thread and don't believe Quasi is to blame. I started a parallel line of discussion in the thread concerning the merits of textile jackets which took it a little off topic. I believe it was that line of discussion that Quasi was addressing when he made his post about tardme traders.

See for yourself below;

No, they are saying the RRP is $599, but they are sellingthem for $200.

BWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I sell my Viper jacket for $465 RRP $1,000.000.00 now thats a deal !!

Maybe not a necessary post (but how many KB posts really are) but certainly not slagging anyone or their product off.

Any idea what the denier rating was (aka, thickness)? After you came off, how did the jacket have to protect you (e,g. did you slide on your back, roll, slide on your front, etc), or did you slide on your arse?

Cheaper jackets that reside on TM are Not actually Genuine Dupont Cordura they are a Fake copy material brought from Asia, Many sellers on Trademe have no issue in declaring it as Cordura when its not however.
An Accurate description would be Polyester outer shell, or possibly a Nylon outer shell, the use of the word Cordura is likely to be B.S

I don't believe for a minute that the above statement isn't factual. There were enough posts in the thread discussing (non manufacturer specific) performance of textile gear in general terms. The above quote was relevant and factual to those posts. Name a thread at KB that has ever being strictly on topic. I can understand why 1 Tonne might have misinterpreted the post but not how. It was pretty obvious to non emotive readers that it was not directed at 1 Tonne.

Nylon Cordura used in many high quality motorcycle garments as it is a strong, abrasion resistant material.

Why is it that every time there is a 1Tonne product on Kiwi biker, the opposition has to pipe up. He only tries to drag other brands down to lift himself up. Why cant the opposition build his own brand by letting his customers do the talking. That is what I do. My customers put a lot of good comments on Kiwibiker but not long after, the opposition will always try to drag the products down in one way or another. He can't help himself. It is not an honourable thing to do. I myself would not lower myself to do this.
My brand builds itself as people get to know of our quality. They then comment to other bikers about our quality and so therefore our brand grows. I do not drag other brands down. I have never commented on the oppositions garments as that would not be the right thing to do.
Our quality is exceptional and our service is brilliant too. Check out our feedback http://www.1tonne.co.nz/feedback/
The opposition needs to be more careful as he is damaging his own business by being petty. Q should keep to his own threads.

I don't know about other threads which may or may not support the above accusations but on the merits of this thread in isolation, this post appears unwarranted and where it started to get personal

Quasi probably felt compelled to address the accusations and somewhat understandably stepped it up but he certainly didn't start it.