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    Interesting - i was thinking of coming back for a holiday, the bill is from long ago, but fuckit, I'll go to Thailand again, instead! better weather, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Thats a holiday - not a bail.

    @ OP - dosnt matter who you owe money to. Doing a runner is a gutless thing to do. Man up and pay your bills. At the very least a fucked credit history will screw you years down the track when you need it most.
    Yeah, what happens when you want to upgrade your bike and can't get finance???

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellokitty View Post
    Yeah, what happens when you want to upgrade your bike and can't get finance???
    Ummmm you pay cash and save on interest?
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    Re VISA. I think the bank that issued the card is the one that will carry the bill. If I am right then these credit cards only provide a way for people to pay using the money from the banks. VISA would charge the bank a fee for their services.

    So, assuming I am right, you will not owe VISA anything but your bank. Not that this will make it any better... If you end up on a bad debt register, depending on the type of debt, it will disappear after between 7 and 5 years and your credit history is clean again even if you did not pay the debt. The debt will never go away, they just stop harrassing you as clearly you will not pay and it costs money to chase you. Only if you go bankrupt will the debts go away. And with the new one year bankrupcy we now have here in NZ (compared to the standard 3 year one) many are taking this option to walk away from their debts.

    Also, if you have a debt with someone it will not stop you leaving the country. Apart from if it is with our government... And supposedly if you are bankrupt you need a OK to leave from whovere is managing your bankrupcy. But I know of people who have gone bankrupt and taken a holiday in Fiji and nobody has tried to stop them. So...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    And with the new one year bankrupcy we now have here in NZ (compared to the standard 3 year one) many are taking this option to walk away from their debts.
    NAP - No Asset Procedure.
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    Visa and Mastercard are just payment network providers. The funds that you spend on a credit card are actually advanced by the bank or institution that underwrites the card.

    You're usually better off paying the bill. If you spent the money that's owed, repayment is the honorable thing to do.
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    Or if you're the sort of person that doesn't pay their debts, don't come back because we don't want/need you here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    Ummmm you pay cash and save on interest?
    ummmmm not everyone has cash lying around to spend on bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellokitty View Post
    ummmmm not everyone has cash lying around to spend on bikes.
    Then maybe they should buy cheaper bikes. Ones they don't have to finance and end up paying 50% more for on a depreciating asset. Instead of 'upgrading' which is really just bollocks.

    Just a thought...
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    Many students leave with tens of thousands of dollars in debt (StudentLoan). I don't see them getting pulled over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EJK View Post
    Many students leave with tens of thousands of dollars in debt (StudentLoan). I don't see them getting pulled over.
    Don't need to, that's a debt with the IRD, and they always get their money.

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    donno if they can and what for...
    but...
    what a stupid thing to do!!

    today internet is above boundaries, and even if your misdeeds remain confined in a country the world is too small to have places you cannot go anymore...
    when i was in california i got a fine not to have stopped to a t intersection (it was a t intersection in the middle of mohave desert with nobody coming from either directions till the curved horizons of the earth, i slowed down but did not actually stopped: a police car popped out from a bush... i felt like wil e coyote...), and in the us you get the advice to go to the court to let the judge decide the amount of your ticket.
    i had to fly back to italy two days later and the court was after 10 days: i had to run to the court and talk with a tenth of clerks to pay the ticket immediately, admitting the fault and promising i'd have been a good boy, and all just because i KNEW that if i would have taken that plane without the ticket paid, i'd been jailed ten years after, if i'd wanted to fly back in the usa for a holiday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Don't need to, that's a debt with the IRD, and they always get their money.
    No they don't. The IRD writes off shit loads of taxes every year, and it ain't 'their money anyway. It's 'our' money which is typically loaned to students to pay for their education the students then leave NZ to earn more money overseas and many don't come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46 View Post
    No they don't. The IRD writes off shit loads of taxes every year, and it ain't 'their money anyway. It's 'our' money which is typically loaned to students to pay for their education the students then leave NZ to earn more money overseas and many don't come back.
    Bastards didn't write off the $400 I owed them they chased me for years, unfortunately they were sending the demands to the wrong address (an address I had never lived at - I had been in my own home for the past 6 years) , so eventually they thought to send the demands to my work where I had also been the last 4 years.
    I didn't even know I owed them anything - amazing how 1 small error in your wages can add up over the years. Even more amazing is how the IRD had written proof in the form of a signed document saying I lived at that address where I had never lived......... weird, and bull shit!

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