yea, let them have GP FRAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by Whitebait
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yea, let them have GP FRAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Forum whore
hmmm the problem you def face - is that they are too much for f3 really.... it also destroys the idea of F3 - which is having a class to develope a machine. GP bikes are fully developed...... and illegal.... thats why there is so many rules against modding up your NSR.....
im pretty sure a RS250 won an F2 race a year or 2 ago.....
suppose im bias - seeing a 250 gp blast past me Legal F3 bike would piss me off - you want something like (modern and faster than everyone else), get an ozzy, least its legal.
Chappy
Come see what the fuss is about....................http://www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz/
Forum whore
Hell yeah, do what you want to the proddie bikes, surely!
Yep plenty, and it will be a bloody nice bike too.
Hell, why not. And GP motors too!
The 250's will be too soon! You'll just have to get a new F3 bike or go PC racing only Neil!Then your old bike will be able to keep up
Jay Lawrence #37
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thay have been left near stock not been alowed any cylinder modes
Forum whore
Is there some new rule i don't know about?? is this a discussion or a rule thats been changed without current F3 competitors been told??
The 250's will be too soon! You'll just have to get a new F3 bike or go PC racing only Neil!
As you can tell i get a bit pissed of - when i keep building bikes to the rules, while others buy ILLEGAL BIKES then complain the rules dont let them in...... F$%KEN BASTARDS
Chappy
Come see what the fuss is about....................http://www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz/
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nah man she's just a proposal and a pretty contentious one at that it would seem. In no way is this approved.
Highway Biker
New suggestion from a MNZ meeting discussion.
50 cent: .F3 is primarily for production based bikes,there will be more coming though.Relax rules for production 250 2t, by all means.Love two strokes, but there over and out in Moto Gp,a dead end. Move towards the future!Not obsolete present f3 bikes.
Also note Post classic Junior is a 600cc rule.
Moped rider
A 250GP bike such as an NX5 RS250 (that's the more common one with the single sided swingarm) with a fast rider on board would be way too fast for F3, you've only got to read up on the moto academy's website to see what laptimes Glen Skachill was doing on one. Here's a snippet from one of the race reports from 2008 on the website;
"Glen was getting into his work refining the 250 suspension after two meetings with the faster, more compliant rain settings. He ran a few laps in the low 1:13s - high 1:12s and declared that he was satsified."
HOWEVER, that's with a very talented rider on board and on the other hand you could note that last years winter series saw a modern TZ250 finishing mid pack in clubmans. So it really is down to who's riding it. This is always the case in club level racing, no matter where in the world you are.
So with that in mind i'd whole heartedly support GP bikes inclusion into F3. But that would have to mean open modifications for production based 250s and the legalisation of the Tyga 300 engine for NSRs.
Highway Biker
Relaxing the 250 rules would suit someone I know very well!A 250GP bike such as an NX5 RS250 (that's the more common one with the single sided swingarm) with a fast rider on board would be way too fast for F3, you've only got to read up on the moto academy's website to see what laptimes Glen Skachill was doing on one. Here's a snippet from one of the race reports from 2008 on the website;
"Glen was getting into his work refining the 250 suspension after two meetings with the faster, more compliant rain settings. He ran a few laps in the low 1:13s - high 1:12s and declared that he was satsified."
HOWEVER, that's with a very talented rider on board and on the other hand you could note that last years winter series saw a modern TZ250 finishing mid pack in clubmans. So it really is down to who's riding it. This is always the case in club level racing, no matter where in the world you are.
So with that in mind i'd whole heartedly support GP bikes inclusion into F3. But that would have to mean open modifications for production based 250s and the legalisation of the Tyga 300 engine for NSRs.
Will be interesting to see what pans out!
Don't worry Neil you'll still be hauling arse on the 450!!
Hardcore Biker
the DRAFT new proposed rules for the various classes should be up on the MNZ website by Tuesday ....... the Road Race Commission is seeking CONSTRUCTIVE comments by the end of this month, so we can finalise the rules and get 'em ratified and in place by September 1st.
DONT need to know who thinks we're all dickheads, we want to make the best decisions for the future of OUR Sport, so feel free to do your bit too guys ...........
Last edited by budda; 4th June 2010 at 09:07. Reason: edit
Forum whore
Someone with a bit of sense, finally!!A 250GP bike such as an NX5 RS250 (that's the more common one with the single sided swingarm) with a fast rider on board would be way too fast for F3, you've only got to read up on the moto academy's website to see what laptimes Glen Skachill was doing on one. Here's a snippet from one of the race reports from 2008 on the website;
"Glen was getting into his work refining the 250 suspension after two meetings with the faster, more compliant rain settings. He ran a few laps in the low 1:13s - high 1:12s and declared that he was satsified."
HOWEVER, that's with a very talented rider on board and on the other hand you could note that last years winter series saw a modern TZ250 finishing mid pack in clubmans. So it really is down to who's riding it. This is always the case in club level racing, no matter where in the world you are.
So with that in mind i'd whole heartedly support GP bikes inclusion into F3. But that would have to mean open modifications for production based 250s and the legalisation of the Tyga 300 engine for NSRs.
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Great idea. F3 is meant to be a mixture of interesting bikes, roughly equal in competitiveness and up to individuals rider and technical skills to get the most of it. If it turns out that all of NZ's top riders turn up on 2009 Aprilia 250 GP bikes well then ... actually that would be quite cool to watch...
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Michael King
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l remember dennis charlotte racing a 92 rs 250 in the vic winter serious went out and did 11.5 to 1.12 at manfeild and dicked all the 600s at the time only took the bike out for a play. tires are a lot better 6 years down the track and would go faster now!
Forum whore
Everything is better now except 92 rs250's , 600s are way faster.
Sounds good to me, a class to ride my TZ in, other than post classic
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Well you just might be in luck,From the information I have recieved,It may be even slightly better than you require.As Budda has stated,The proposed rules should be up early next week,So make sure you give them some positive feedback.
So with that in mind i'd whole heartedly support GP bikes inclusion into F3. But that would have to mean open modifications for production based 250s and the legalisation of the Tyga 300 engine for NSRs.
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