When is "cordura" not Cordura?

[flyingcrocodile46]

I believe he did actually do just that in a round about way. The original post at the start by Quasi was referring to a 1 tonne jacket that was up for sale. All i can say is that i disapprove of any manufacture slagging. Sell on your quality of service and/or product and leave the rest to do their job. If it's good enough, people will return

No it wasn't. Go back and read it again and smack yourself around the head 100 times with a clue bat until you see the words on the monitor rather than those formed by the alphabet soup in your pea head.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Grubber...I'm pretty sure you need to learn to read...here I'll spell it out for you....THE POINT OF IT ALL WAS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW NOT ALL BRANDS THAT CLAIM TO BE CODURA ARE!!! - that's the ONLY point he was making with the 'some traders on TM' comment...read it again! The fact that 1tonne appears now to be one of those brands is something I did not know UNTIL 1tonne themselves came on here and admitted to it...then proceeded to remove ALL reference of "CODURA" (a protected brand name) from their website...case closed! Stop trying to make Quasi the bad guy here...he has never claimed his product is made from anything other than top quality leather. Grow up and stop making shit up!

Amen......!

[Biggles08]

I believe he did actually do just that in a round about way. The original post at the start by Quasi was referring to a 1 tonne jacket that was up for sale. All i can say is that i disapprove of any manufacture slagging. Sell on your quality of service and/or product and leave the rest to do their job. If it's good enough, people will return

So emotive claims of things like inflated RRP (this is a personal opinion from 1tonne which was responded to by quasi with the use of sarcasm I grant you) and the false claim of using 'CODURA' is ok in your books then? If you knew about it being a false statement on 1tonnes behalf, would you tell people? I would...not just that, ANYONE misinforming people, knowingly or otherwise...the fact is (as I keep repeating myself for slow learners) 1tonne jackets DO NOT USE CODURA and were saying they did. The have fixed this issue now thanks to Quasi bringing this up (in a polite way I might add - hell, he even offered the contact details for the CODURA rep to make sure 1tonne's supplier wasn't ripping him off FFS) and now each can go on selling to their respective customers.

Grubber, the more you go on about this, the more you will harm the business of 1tonne as I will continue to defend Quasi's actions until people like you see the truth...so if you want to continue, I'm not adverse to either. If you were to ask 1tonne however, I'm sure he would like this thread to go away now that things have been cleared up.

[flyingcrocodile46]

So emotive claims of things like inflated RRP (this is a personal opinion from 1tonne which was responded to by quasi with the use of sarcasm I grant you) and the false claim of using 'CODURA' is ok in your books then? If you knew about it being a false statement on 1tonnes behalf, would you tell people? I would...not just that, ANYONE misinforming people, knowingly or otherwise...the fact is (as I keep repeating myself for slow learners) 1tonne jackets DO NOT USE CODURA and were saying they did. The have fixed this issue now thanks to Quasi bringing this up (in a polite way I might add - hell, he even offered the contact details for the CODURA rep to make sure 1tonne's supplier wasn't ripping him off FFS) and now each can go on selling to their respective customers.

Grubber, the more you go on about this, the more you will harm the business of 1tonne as I will continue to defend Quasi's actions until people like you see the truth...so if you want to continue, I'm not adverse to either. If you were to ask 1tonne however, I'm sure he would like this thread to go away now that things have been cleared up.

Fucking A. This thread is an embarrassment to both manufacturers and as Mom pointed out, it has resulted in damage to the reputation of both of them. Personally I am still keen to look at buying products from either supplier and don't believe that either of them has inferior products. To the contrary, from what I have heard they both offer good value. It will come down to who has the fattest suit Lol

[DIN PELENDA]

I'm going to get me some ALPINESTARS

[Smifffy]

I'm going to get me some ALPINESTARS

Pretty sure they don't use real cordura either..

[Katman]

Meh, personally I'd rather see the traders that are selling the Chinese made German-style helmets, with the bullshit DOT markings, crucified.

[slofox]

I already use Quasi's trousers and jackets.
After wading through this shit storm I have decided I need to get me some of 1 Tonne's boots.
So there ya go...share the love y'know...

[bogan]

I already use Quasi's trousers and jackets.
After wading through this shit storm I have decided I need to get me some of 1 Tonne's boots.
So there ya go...share the love y'know...

whats the shit storm rating on the 1Tonne stuff then?

[slofox]

whats the shit storm rating on the 1Tonne stuff then?

dunno - ask me after I try the boots...

[ynot slow]

From a sales perspective,a year or so back in the furniture industry there was real el cheapo "leather lounge suites" sold by reasonable chain,parts were leather,but after comerce commission got in the leather was both animal and man made on the suites,leather on seats and arm rests,but imitation under seats etc.

The firm I worked for was caught as well,we were told and the chair sample shown was total leather,once we arranged a container to arrive and sold that lot,we ordered another,that was sold,but along the way as they were electric recliners (at $6-1000 cheaper than others elsewhere)the odd chair had arm rest problems,the odd stitching coming loose,and we saw it wasn't leather.We had to change our adds for next run to say genuine leather and bi-cast/man made leather.

Re boots I bought a pair from Lifestyle Imports,comfy and waterproof,in comparrison my Diadora are tighter fitting and showerproof.Lesson here is the named brands cost more,but do they perform better,not so sure,moral here is try every brand and make your own mind up.

[Rogue Rider]

Cordura is a simple, cheap and readily accessible fabric available anywhere pretty much in the world. It is predominantly made in asia specifically china.
Cordura garments can be made in nearly any eastern/ western country in the world. Nearly all Cordura jackets in NZ come form Pakistan, mexico and Thailand of all places. There are differing grades of Cordura product, and differing quality in manufacturing methods. Don't think for a second that if you pay more you get more..... The best manufacture destination I have seen have come from Pakistan and Mexico. These jackets are manufactured for from $45-55us per jacket and $55us for pants. They also manufacture leather products as well.

It apears to me that many have jumped on the band wagon and imported stuff to make a quick buck. No issue with that, healthy margins when reselling for $400+ per garments.......
I was selling loads of them at $150 and couldn't get enough. Wholesalers like Shoo Industries in Pakistan will supply small orders happily if you rally some mates, you too could get on the saving wagon. All the brands you know are most likely made in the same factory.......... and its easy to tell when you look at there websites.

[p.dath]

Cordura is a simple, cheap and readily accessible fabric available anywhere pretty much in the world. It is predominantly made in asia specifically china.

That's what sparked off this initially. You speak of Cordura as though it is a generic material (as I also tend to do). However "genuine" Cordura is made by Invsita in Texas. While it may be available all over the world, it is not made all over the world.
http://www.cordura.com/

[Biggles08]

Cordura is a simple, cheap and readily accessible fabric available anywhere pretty much in the world. It is predominantly made in asia specifically china.
Cordura garments can be made in nearly any eastern/ western country in the world. Nearly all Cordura jackets in NZ come form Pakistan, mexico and Thailand of all places. There are differing grades of Cordura product, and differing quality in manufacturing methods. Don't think for a second that if you pay more you get more..... The best manufacture destination I have seen have come from Pakistan and Mexico. These jackets are manufactured for from $45-55us per jacket and $55us for pants. They also manufacture leather products as well.

It apears to me that many have jumped on the band wagon and imported stuff to make a quick buck. No issue with that, healthy margins when reselling for $400+ per garments.......
I was selling loads of them at $150 and couldn't get enough. Wholesalers like Shoo Industries in Pakistan will supply small orders happily if you rally some mates, you too could get on the saving wagon. All the brands you know are most likely made in the same factory.......... and its easy to tell when you look at there websites.

Did you even read this thread at all??? I can't believe some people!

Your right about one thing tho...big brands does not always mean better quality...it usually does but not always. Check out the facts of everything your about to buy BEFORE you do and ask things that matter. Personally I find it amazing that there are people out there like you that think it is possible to have the quality of a $400-$600 jacket for $150. Life is not like that unfortunately. Safety gear is not where you should be skimping on quality. Would you buy a parachute for less than 1/4 of the price of the going rate without being suspicious about how good it was? Doubt it. If it seems to good to be true...it is.

[pc220]

This thread must be due for the pd bin by now.