Why are cops beating speeding motorcyclists?

[Katman]

Answer to the OP:

Cause some of you (that's the great unwashed in general) are fuckwits. Some fuckwits ride bikes.

funniest thing I've seen is someone doing an runner on a Harley (when dressed like a gang rapist funnily enough but wearing a full-face helmet), falling off at about 20km/h, then after fighting with him for about a minute, his visor mysteriously opened, a can of pepper spray was somehow discharged into said open visor, then the visor was closed.

In the ensueing screaming/crying for mummy/whimpering 5 minutes, a loaded 9mm pistol was recovered from a shoulder holster, which was what the gang rapist was trying to access during the 60 second struggle....

Did you get away?

[quickbuck]

.....
he then gave me a ticket for having a headlight out in my Ford Pop - no diversion - $75. I'm still dark on that!
.....

LOL, I get it

[wysper]

Therefore, the cops are entitled to bash and abuse ordinary law abiding citizens. Because the cops reckon we're all criminals.

No, you are being deliberately obtuse, basing a conclusion on the actions of citizens who happen to be police officers. Maybe you should check out the occupations of every other person charged with assault and then you can carry on your fun little game.

Look at the loss of experience our children experience as compared to our own thanks to OSH alone. Can't play bull rush and outward bound type schools are now so sanitised that the experience is hardly worth the effort. Try and run a charitable event where the public are involved and like it as not the compliance requirements to organise it will eat up everyone's donated time before the event is halfway organised. (a little glimpse of a fragment of the 'bigger picture')

While your hatred of cops I don't share, I do share your annoyance with our friends in the fantasy world of OSH. They seem intent of sucking the fun out of life.

It would be an opportunity to balance the media coverage (slanted toward the bad and sensational) the force get.

Maybe the MEDIA should report on the good work of the off duty police.

[Littleman]

So, let me just check if I've got this right.

According to the police defenders how it works is, cops deal with criminals. Criminals being nasty people they abuse and bash other people. Since cops have to deal with the criminals, the criminals bash and abuse the cops.

Therefore, the cops are entitled to bash and abuse ordinary law abiding citizens. Because the cops reckon we're all criminals.

Have I got that right?

But,one thing that I'm not clear on, if criminals bash and abuse ordinary people and cops bash and abuse ordinary people, how do we tell the cops from the criminals?.

Oh, of course. The uniform. So what distinguishes cops from criminals is the uniform. Correct ?

Go ask the wife.

[marty]

Did you get away?

Away with it, or away?

[flyingcrocodile46]

While your hatred of cops I don't share, I do share your annoyance with our friends in the fantasy world of OSH. They seem intent of sucking the fun out of life.

I don't hate cops, OSH or Australians. I just despise them.

Carry on

[scumdog]

I don't hate cops, OSH or Australians. I just despise them.

Carry on

Ain't YOU the lucky man - there soooo many out there to despise!

[marty]

N


Maybe the MEDIA should report on the good work of the off duty police.

they do.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10649854

[flyingcrocodile46]

Ain't YOU the lucky man - there soooo many out there to despise!

Heh. Ain't that the truth. Actually I didn't tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about how I feel about cops. My statements on the forum have been a bit one sided so I will (later.. busy now) tell you about my advice to my son when he recently told me he wants to be a cop.

[caseye]

Heh. Ain't that the truth. Actually I didn't tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about how I feel about cops. My statements on the forum have been a bit one sided so I will (later.. busy now) tell you about my advice to my son when he recently told me he wants to be a cop.

Now this I want to hear!~ LOL, come on Croc spill.

[BMWST?]

I was riding for hours, every cop I saw just went straight past and never offered me a glance...I guess it's a North Island problem..

it appears to have occured in (or close to)dunedin

[red mermaid]

Oh no, Im doomed.

I'm a cop with an OSH Inspectors warrant, but not an Australian?!

I don't hate cops, OSH or Australians. I just despise them.

Carry on

[Berries]

it appears to have occured in (or close to)dunedin

According to the local rag, the guy was riding on the one way in Dunedin on an unregistered bike with no lights on in the dark. While speeding. Probably had a flashing light on as well just to make sure he was noticed. He was pursued and stopped. While two cops tried to get cuffs on him another two arrived to help out as he was being a little feisty and didn't fancy the bracelets. The guys kidneys then somehow impacted with the fist of one of the officers while he was lying face down. More than once.

Can't find the court news page from yesterday but here's the story - http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/10...guilty-assault. As you'll see, the police are distancing themselves from the two guys now they have been found guilty.

Found it, here's the court news - http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/10...s039-fate-jury.

Read the full story and you will see that it wasn't a beating. It was just pain compliance.

[scumdog]

Read the full story and you will see that it wasn't a beating. It was just pain compliance.

With the lack of brain the 'victim' had it's a wonder he could register pain at all..

[flyingcrocodile46]

Now this I want to hear!~ LOL, come on Croc spill.

The GP is starting soon.

I asked my 16 yr old son what he thinks he wants to do career wise, he said he thought he might like to be a cop. After the shock subsided, I asked him why. He replied that he thought it would be cool (a typically expressive teenager) so I had to push him a bit to expand on his answer, eventually ascertaining that he figured it would be good to be a good guy and help people in the community.

I then told him that it wouldn't be an easy job, that there was very little about policing that was romantic, that most of the people he would have contact with other than other police officers would be people that he was either arresting, giving tickets to, scraping off the pavement, copping abuse from, getting attacked by etc. I told him that a lot of people who he had never met before would hate him and want to do him harm just because he was a cop. I told him that he would find that some people he knew (friends included) would distance themselves from him. That he would likely find that the majority of his friends would be other officers and that Police get depressed and bitter that people dislike them, that most of the time that they deal with people those people are at their worst, or grieving, and that it would become hard not to type cast people and see the majority of people as being bad. I told him that having a negative attitude towards and seeing the worst in people would result in feeling superior to them. I told him that I had very little respect for the police as a whole because of what I have seen some of them do, how they treat people, abuse their powers by extortion, bullying, framing, beating and raping people. How so many of them immediately attempt to intimidate people rather than showing them any courtesy or respect or giving them the benefit of doubt. I also told him that it was understandable how all the negative interaction with the worst people would wear away at them and give them cause to be suspicious of everyone, that it would be hard not to succumb to seeing things that way because of that aspect of the job. I told him that it is a very hard job to do and that it would be very difficult to retain a balanced perspective of and respect for people that he would deal with and that some people (me included to a degree) would look down on him because of what he did for a job. I also told him that some of his fellow officers would also struggle with these issues and will do things to people that aren't right or lawful, and how that would then put him in a position where he would have to decide if it was ok for his fellow officers to break the law and/or mistreat people. I told him that the day he saw the answer as maybe or yes, then his integrity and cause for self respect would be gone and expanded on how that is the start of a nasty downward spiral.

I then paused and thought to add a little balance by saying... In saying all of that, we need Police to help keep order in society and that we especially need good policemen as we don't seem to have very many them, so if you think you could make a good policeman without losing respect for people and being prepared to give them the benefit of doubt then that would be a good thing and you should go for it. I told him that there were still some good police officers and that if he wanted to meet one and have a talk to him, that I could arrange it. (I know this because I know one that I like and respect... and a few ex cops who got out of it because of some aspects of the above burble)