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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    but that right there brings a breach of the law in itself ONLY a court of law can find anyone guilty. Police are only there to accuse people NOT to judge them & to do so puts them in breach of NZ law.
    Semantics, really. A cop is not going to write you up if he doesn't think you're guilty.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Uh, that's exactly the same as this country and, yes, people have been convicted of speeding just because a cop thought they looked like they were going too fast
    Even worse, another (completely unqualified) motorist informs an officer that you have been speeding (*555) and he issues you with a ticket on the the strength of that information!

    Have read of this but don't know the outcome, the fact is bad enough on it's own!

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    Pretty sure with the *555 you get a verbal or written slap on the wrist. Get a few of these and you are in trouble.

    Years ago in North Canterbury a friend got a speeding ticket because 'your bike sounded fast - I could hear you winding it out in the hills'. He wrote in a got off as there was nothing to validate it. Fact was he would have been under the legal max in that part of the hills and he invited the reader of his letter to try to exceed the 100km limit through there.

    I would have thought in the US-of-A that that 'law' would be a violation of one of their precious founding fathers rights.

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    I've been stopped 3 times for 'assumption of speeding, twice for a warning and once for a ticket (which resulted in loss of license).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Well, what's the difference between careless and dangerous driving?
    Careless driving is when the standard of driving is not up to that expected of a careful and prudent driver. (as judged by JPs)

    Dangerous driving is careless driving that is dangerous to a person or persons. Judged by a judge.

    The next step up is reckless driving, which is dangerous driving where they can prove intent. Like, you fail to stop, turn your lights off and try to get away. That's reckless.

    So there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Careless driving is when the standard of driving is not up to that expected of a careful and prudent driver. (as judged by JPs)
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    Oooohhh - that's a scary one. You seen how some JP's drive...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Oooohhh - that's a scary one. You seen how some JP's drive...........
    That's nothing. Have you seen how some JP's reach their verdicts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    . A cop is not going to write you up if he doesn't think you're guilty
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    I know a couple that would do just that....

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    Would this be careless or dangerous..........A Female cop with siren going, two lanes of cars but the turning lane was empty, she came from behind these cars then went through a red light straight ahead using a turning lane with traffic coming from her left with a green light, her speed approx 60kph, it was a close call, she almost had herself 'NAILED' big time..

    Place Hamilton city yesterday at the lights on the corner of Anglesea and Collingwood, she ran a red light in the most dangerous of fashion time approx 1.45pm

    Was more than likely going for lunch with the boys...

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckonin View Post
    Would this be careless or dangerous..........A Female cop with siren going, two lanes of cars but the turning lane was empty, she came from behind these cars then went through a red light straight ahead using a turning lane with traffic coming from her left with a green light, her speed approx 60kph, it was a close call, she almost had herself 'NAILED' big time..

    Place Hamilton city yesterday at the lights on the corner of Anglesea and Collingwood, she ran a red light in the most dangerous of fashion time approx 1.45pm

    Was more than likely going for lunch with the boys...
    Lunch run, therefore not dangerous....
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    Quote Originally Posted by duckonin View Post
    Would this be careless or dangerous..........A Female cop with siren going, two lanes of cars but the turning lane was empty, she came from behind these cars then went through a red light straight ahead using a turning lane with traffic coming from her left with a green light, her speed approx 60kph, it was a close call, she almost had herself 'NAILED' big time..

    Place Hamilton city yesterday at the lights on the corner of Anglesea and Collingwood, she ran a red light in the most dangerous of fashion time approx 1.45pm

    Was more than likely going for lunch with the boys...
    Lunch run, therefore not dangerous....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Oooohhh - that's a scary one. You seen how some JP's drive...........
    they're not quite judges so does that make them not quite as dangerous???

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Lunch run, therefore not dangerous....
    HA HA The speed she was going she must of forgot breaky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Careless driving is when the standard of driving is not up to that expected of a careful and prudent driver. (as judged by JPs)

    Dangerous driving is careless driving that is dangerous to a person or persons. Judged by a judge.

    The next step up is reckless driving, which is dangerous driving where they can prove intent. Like, you fail to stop, turn your lights off and try to get away. That's reckless.

    So there.

    So if i keep my lights on and try to get away, would it still be just dangerous driving? Or is "failing to stop" automaticaly reckless driving...

    ...it would be kind of unfair to call it "reckless" as i wouldnt be trying to get away recklessly...actualy i would try to get away as safely as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    I've been stopped 3 times for 'assumption of speeding, twice for a warning and once for a ticket (which resulted in loss of license).
    Did they impound the bike? Or let you push it home?

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