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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    I hope that they add weapons charges to the list - give him some more years.
    It is interesting to note that the judge set the date for sentencing before the trial even commenced!
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    Those arrows looked really dangerous, if one had actually reached the Whaling (opps, scientific research vessel) it may put a hole in it and sunk? sank? sinked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Those arrows looked really dangerous, if one had actually reached the Whaling (opps, scientific research vessel) it may put a hole in it and sunk? sank? sinked?
    Prob more of an issue if he hit a person perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Prob more of an issue if he hit a person perhaps?
    Unlikely though to be honest, the arrows dropped into the water, he was never close enough and he aint no Robin Hood.
    Hes a A1 Wanker for sure and fuck em' I say, he wrecked that boat and put the crews lives in danger, thats a certainty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Of course it's scientific. You don't think Kawasaki's handle like whales just by chance do ya?
    Oh , that explains it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    of course - until he fires it and kills some poor bastard who is doing a perfectly legal job trying to feed his family. As it is he has already caused burns and damage to a guy on board one of the boats. Next time perhaps he wants to kill one of them - bigger headlines you see. (worked with the round the world trip didnt it). I hope that they add weapons charges to the list - give him some more years.
    The whalers could do something else, they don't have to hunt down animals for basically what amounts to a delicacy to a minority of people. It is unnecessary and selfish and causes a hell of a lot of suffering to these animals. Yea I know someone will mention fishing bla bla bla and probarbly start up some psuedo academic argument, but in my eyes its just plain wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    The whalers could do something else, they don't have to hunt down animals for basically what amounts to a delicacy to a minority of people. It is unnecessary and selfish and causes a hell of a lot of suffering to these animals. Yea I know someone will mention fishing bla bla bla and probarbly start up some psuedo academic argument, but in my eyes its just plain wrong.
    Many vegans say the same about all meats. They're entitled to their opinion and entitled to express it, as are you. "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" - Voltaire.

    But what you do not get to do, is take violent action against people going about their lawful business in order to express that opinion. No way, Hosè. That is what Buffoon and Sea Shepherd do and I will never condone it. Never fucking ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    The whalers could do something else, they don't have to hunt down animals for basically what amounts to a delicacy to a minority of people. It is unnecessary and selfish and causes a hell of a lot of suffering to these animals. Yea I know someone will mention fishing bla bla bla and probarbly start up some psuedo academic argument, but in my eyes its just plain wrong.
    Just because you dont like the job - the do have a right to do it. It is not uncommon for generations of families to continue working in the fishing / whaling industry. Often in some places it is the only work they know and is the only option available in that area.

    But it says more about 'people like you' that you are more concerned about a big fish than the fuckers attacking them and hurting them. No mention of the pain and suffering of the guy who was hit by Pete Buffoon with the acid - and that in my eyes is plain wrong.


    On the bright side today is the day - we should know how long he gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    The whalers could do something else, they don't have to hunt down animals for basically what amounts to a delicacy to a minority of people. It is unnecessary and selfish and causes a hell of a lot of suffering to these animals. Yea I know someone will mention fishing bla bla bla and probarbly start up some psuedo academic argument, but in my eyes its just plain wrong.
    The Islamic world would say that about pork. We regularly kill sheep and cattle using the Islamic halal method, yet it is illegal in the name of cruelty to kill them in the Jewish Kosher method. Which is the same except for the prayer.

    Many Hindis have that view on cattle, which they know are sacred, but will cheerfully eat your dog.

    Banning whaling based on our perception of the animal as intelligent, desirable or cute, does not make our ban justifiable, it just puts us into conflict with other cultures.

    We have to justify our actions on sustainability, and our inability to kill the animal humanely. In the mean time, we have missed that boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    The Islamic world would say that about pork. We regularly kill sheep and cattle using the Islamic halal method, yet it is illegal in the name of cruelty to kill them in the Jewish Kosher method. Which is the same except for the prayer.

    Many Hindis have that view on cattle, which they know are sacred, but will cheerfully eat your dog.

    Banning whaling based on our perception of the animal as intelligent, desirable or cute, does not make our ban justifiable, it just puts us into conflict with other cultures.

    We have to justify our actions on sustainability, and our inability to kill the animal humanely. In the mean time, we have missed that boat.
    But but but...we're the West ya know, we know better than the rest of the world and our way is the right way. And the only way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    It is unnecessary and selfish and causes a hell of a lot of suffering to these animals. Yea I know someone will mention fishing bla bla bla and probarbly start up some psuedo academic argument, but in my eyes its just plain wrong.
    You're eyes are full of sand is all. Cows don't like being shot in the head with a steel rod and their throats cut. Fish don't like being dragged into the open air and left to flop about. Pigs don't like living in shitty little huts. But a niggers gotta eat. If whales were smart enough to even begin to consider not eating them, they'd be smart enough that a couple of boats full of nips wouldn't be able to catch them, year after year, in the same places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    Many vegans say the same about all meats. They're entitled to their opinion and entitled to express it, as are you. "I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" - Voltaire.

    But what you do not get to do, is take violent action against people going about their lawful business in order to express that opinion. No way, Hosè. That is what Buffoon and Sea Shepherd do and I will never condone it. Never fucking ever.
    Agree with most of what you say, but I have reservations about the lawfulness or honesty of the "whalers/scientists" actions. Adolf Hitler probarbly reasoned that the gestapo were acting under his law too, but we sent our soldiers over there to fight it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Just because you dont like the job - the do have a right to do it. It is not uncommon for generations of families to continue working in the fishing / whaling industry. Often in some places it is the only work they know and is the only option available in that area.

    But it says more about 'people like you' that you are more concerned about a big fish than the fuckers attacking them and hurting them. No mention of the pain and suffering of the guy who was hit by Pete Buffoon with the acid - and that in my eyes is plain wrong.


    On the bright side today is the day - we should know how long he gets.
    Whales are only a small piece of the pie. What about the great apes, tigers, polar bears etc? if you are happy for them to disapear just so a few of the 6 billion humans have a job, and are unwilling to retrain then good onya.

    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    The Islamic world would say that about pork. We regularly kill sheep and cattle using the Islamic halal method, yet it is illegal in the name of cruelty to kill them in the Jewish Kosher method. Which is the same except for the prayer.

    Many Hindis have that view on cattle, which they know are sacred, but will cheerfully eat your dog.

    Banning whaling based on our perception of the animal as intelligent, desirable or cute, does not make our ban justifiable, it just puts us into conflict with other cultures.

    We have to justify our actions on sustainability, and our inability to kill the animal humanely. In the mean time, we have missed that boat.
    Agree with you

    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    You're eyes are full of sand is all. Cows don't like being shot in the head with a steel rod and their throats cut. Fish don't like being dragged into the open air and left to flop about. Pigs don't like living in shitty little huts. But a niggers gotta eat. If whales were smart enough to even begin to consider not eating them, they'd be smart enough that a couple of boats full of nips wouldn't be able to catch them, year after year, in the same places.
    But they are not smart enough and that is why buffoon is trying to help them. Boats and harpoons and all manner of technology is not really fair is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Adolf Hitler probarbly reasoned that the gestapo were acting under his law too, but we sent our soldiers over there to fight it.
    Yay the Nazi's have finally been mentioned!


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    This is worse than waiting to see who gets chucked off "American idle"!

    I see the good ship Greenpiss has deserted their sinking rat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    If whales were smart enough to even begin to consider not eating them, they'd be smart enough that a couple of boats full of nips wouldn't be able to catch them, year after year, in the same places.
    Yeah wtf sharpen up ay. You'd think they'd figured it by now.

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