He is 20 FFS!

[Laava]

Rule .303. He won't do it again, and it saves the tax payer a fortune in rehab and care whilst he is locked up.

I will donate the bullet.

I agree. Call Dr Winchester! Chk chk!

[CookMySock]

What a shame for the whole family that they never had the chance to acquire the tools they needed. Clearly feeling angry and inadequate, all they can see is their conditioning.

Steve

[JimO]

What a shame for the whole family that they never had the chance to acquire the tools they needed. Clearly feeling angry and inadequate, all they can see is their conditioning.

Steve

its the white mans fault for not wiping the lot of them out when they had the chance

[Paul in NZ]

I was in London when Once Were Warriors hit the scene.

The English couldn't believe that the movie portrayed a very real slice of Kiwi life rather than just being a good old Hollywood (type) action flick.

True - but a hell of a lot of people in england walk about their towns and cities ignoring that much violence and worse. Like a lot of places, englands GREAT if you have money but if you have to live and hang out with the dregs - good luck!

There is a LOT of reasons this stuff happens and I certainly don't have any answers of what to do about it but I do know just tell prople like this that they are bad and that this is unacceptable etc won't work. It just breaks my heart really - so much energy and time is wasted on this stuff, imagine if we could divert all the effort that goes into resolving this crap into something productive? (actually, if we had jobs for these people maybe there wouldnt be so much of this and... oh dear, my head hurts now)

[Paul in NZ]

its the white mans fault for not wiping the lot of them out when they had the chance

Actually - the white man figured out pretty damn quickly that Maori fought back pretty effectively and they were damned glad there was no unified structure across all tribes so they could pitch one against the other or else it just plain would not have been worth the effort.

ie - its very likely they could not have won in a total all out war.

Besides - NZ was colonised late in the piece and the british were pretty enlightened by then (ie realised the futility) Economic repression of a sector of society takes longer but is vastly more effective.

[JellyBellyKelly]

the trouble with prison is it's too nice.
i have to pay for my rent, food, power, tv etc etc etc and work hard for it. they get all for free from my tax dollar. absolute bull crap

i'm all for the castration.
maybe all 15 year olds need the contraceptive injection that lasts for 5 years so they don't fall in to the trap of having kids for the easy DPB pay check.

[slofox]

"Ngahuru was remorseful"

Yeah. I fucking bet...

[mashman]

True - but a hell of a lot of people in england walk about their towns and cities ignoring that much violence and worse. Like a lot of places, englands GREAT if you have money but if you have to live and hang out with the dregs - good luck!

There is a LOT of reasons this stuff happens and I certainly don't have any answers of what to do about it but I do know just tell prople like this that they are bad and that this is unacceptable etc won't work. It just breaks my heart really - so much energy and time is wasted on this stuff, imagine if we could divert all the effort that goes into resolving this crap into something productive? (actually, if we had jobs for these people maybe there wouldnt be so much of this and... oh dear, my head hurts now)

These dregs you're talking about... quite a few have degrees, many more are of "above" intelligence... i'm not worried about the dregs... they "CAN" be reasoned with (same with gang members)... I know this from personal experience of both Liverpool and Glasgow... two of the most deprived cities in the country... I wasn't always "a good man".

[mashman]

maybe all 15 year olds need the contraceptive injection that lasts for 5 years so they don't fall in to the trap of having kids for the easy DPB pay check.

Aye, fucking with a persons hormones doesn't change them one bit... my ex will testify to that... she turned into a completely irrational DESTRUCTIVE monster... only she couldn't see it at the time.... pumping hormonal teens full of the stuff is a recipe for utter chaos.

[peasea]

Two years and 4 months for this is astounding! He is 20 years of age, there is no hope for him, his kids, his partner/future partners. This sort of thing leaves me cold. There is a child here learning from his fathers knee. Castrate the bastards!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10645150

Scarey story this one, and oh so friggen typical.

I blame the father. He obviously wasn't listening to his cricket coach during the training sessions.

[cruza]

Made me sick when I read this in the paper. Sentence is pretty crap too. No chick should be have to put up with that.

[duckonin]

I blame the father. He obviously wasn't listening to his cricket coach during the training sessions.

Yep didn't get his knee forward enough then let his shoulder's do the work...

[Blinkwing]

Made me sick when I read this in the paper. Sentence is pretty crap too. No chick should be have to put up with that.

Nobody should have to put up with it.

[cruza]

Nobody should have to put up with it.

even neighbours, had a case couple months ago very similar , next door. Thankfully they're been evicted.But had to ring up the police as he was beating up his partner , and the flatmates were not able to calm the situattion. In fact one crashed thru our six foot fence. When he went and got there 18th month old boy out of bed. and brought him into the back yard , that was my limit...... I called the police, amazing how quick they turned up .

Her Dad moved her out 2 days later.......then I still had to put up with the scum till the courts and police evicted her partner and other low lifes.

[tri boy]

I blame the father. He obviously wasn't listening to his cricket coach during the training sessions.

He was probably hung over after a heavy night beating the wife n kids.
(Hockey sticks are more effective. Jab, jab, sweep, smash. Easier on the wrists too.)