The difference between men and women.

[Number One]

Boys are Smelly

nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah

*skips away with pigtails and petticoats flying*

[avgas]

Boys are Smelly

nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah

*skips away with pigtails and petticoats flying*

Girls have kooties

[Genie]

men are men, though some think they are women.

women are women...though some think they are men

all in all, we're human.

[Teflon]

Boys are Smelly

nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah

*skips away with pigtails and petticoats flying*

[avgas]

Google Martina Lee.....

[rainman]

Mankind has not just been hunter-gatherers, but has always harvested both animals and crops and lived in societies for mutual benefit.

Winston's beaten me to this, but sorry, that's just flat wrong. Agriculture/civilisation is but a recent mistake.

His superior intelligence has ensured his survival and prosperity when his physical vulnerability would otherwise have led to his extinction.

I think you are confusing causes and effects. We are what was selected for by circumstance. Those ancestors that were physically vulnerable did go extinct, and the stronger lot survived. If cunning assisted that, and was genetically expressed, then it survived too.

Evolution isn't moral. Life just happens. Now we've kicked in a significant chunk of societal evolution too you can see that writ large - our economic and political systems select for a bunch of traits that are not of the greatest moral purity, just the greatest utility for achieving success. This is complicated by the fact that success/failure consequences are not real (death) but concern a virtual and fluid concept of money/wealth. We're playing a game, and the winners are the sociopaths.

Same concept with biology: life does what works, not what's "good".

it is a medically proven fact that men are indeed stronger in every way generally than women.

Not trying to be difficult here but two things:
1. To be "medically" (scientifically) proven implies here that there is a specific causation hypothesis being tested (if man then...), and something empirical being measured. What's being measured in these studies?
2. Anecdotally, I'm not so sure. Women endure a great deal of hardship in many contexts and at an emotional level seem better able to deal with this than many men. No, not a scientific pronouncement, but certainly cause to question your thesis.

Why is man dominant?

Ed, I'm sure you have a rational(-ised?) reason for these debates but I have to tell ya, psychologically it is of concern that you seem to need to assert power and dominance (by gender proxy) from time to time. Are you OK?

[Fatt Max]

Women are alright, but they are not like the real thing.......

[Edbear]

Winston's beaten me to this, but sorry, that's just flat wrong. Agriculture/civilisation is but a recent mistake.


Ed, I'm sure you have a rational(-ised?) reason for these debates but I have to tell ya, psychologically it is of concern that you seem to need to assert power and dominance (by gender proxy) from time to time. Are you OK?

a/ I'll get back to this and the science next.

b/ Not at all, please don't misunderstand me, as I said, this is not based on personal experience, it's based on studying human kind and human psychology/biology and observation. As I also said, my wife, while not being as strong as I am, is no weakling and has her own voice. Our marriage is a complementary partnership and I value and appreciate her qualities and her contribution. I readily acknowledge her skills and intelligence and rely upon her input and respect her opinions.

I'd like some input from our female members on this.

[Slyer]

As said, our different physiology is based entirely on gender roles.
Males fight over who gets to screw the females,
Large males are more likely to win these fights,
Thus, the female's offspring are more likely to share the genetics of the larger males.
Because of this, the offspring are more likely to be larger and better at fighting and the cycle continues. For millions of years.
This is the answer, there's nothing more to it.

I suggest you read The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins if you haven't already.

[Edbear]

As said, our different physiology is based entirely on gender roles.
Males fight over who gets to screw the females,
Large males are more likely to win these fights,
Thus, the female's offspring are more likely to share the genetics of the larger males.
Because of this, the offspring are more likely to be larger and better at fighting and the cycle continues. For millions of years.
This is the answer, there's nothing more to it.

I suggest you read The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins if you haven't already.

I have a copy of The Selfish Gene and have read it many times. You are quite wrong. At times in the wild with animals such occurs but definitely not among mankind, unless it's in a pub among a couple of drunks and then the female would have to be drunk as well... You're not talking reality here.

While there have been and are societies that demean women to prey and second-class status, I doubt any female member here would agree with you that it is proper or desirable and that they choose their own mates.

[Stirts]

Sex:
Women prefer 30 - 45 minutes of foreplay. Men prefer 30 - 45 seconds of foreplay.

Admitting Mistakes:
Women will sometimes admit making a mistake. The last man who admitted that he was wrong was Gen. George Custer.

Mustaches:
Some men look good with mustaches. Those men are Tom Selleck and Burt Reynolds. There are no women who look good with mustaches.

[Edbear]

Notice that the posts disagreeing with me are by men who bring it all down to sex and their "right" to "screw" any female they can conquer..?

This is simplistic and plain wrong. Ask members who are long term married, or the female members for their views and you will get a completely different perspective.

[avgas]

I have a copy of The Selfish Gene and have read it many times. You are quite wrong. At times in the wild with animals such occurs but definitely not among mankind, unless it's in a pub among a couple of drunks and then the female would have to be drunk as well... You're not talking reality here.

While there have been and are societies that demean women to prey and second-class status, I doubt any female member here would agree with you that it is proper or desirable and that they choose their own mates.

Have to agree here. Most women go out, date, sleep with, have babies with.
Weak, ugly pathetic morons.
These morons breed as much as possible.

[Edbear]

Sex:
Women prefer 30 - 45 minutes of foreplay. Men prefer 30 - 45 seconds of foreplay.

Admitting Mistakes:
Women will sometimes admit making a mistake. The last man who admitted that he was wrong was Gen. George Custer.

Mustaches:
Some men look good with mustaches. Those men are Tom Selleck and Burt Reynolds. There are no women who look good with mustaches.

Hmmm. I like to play for as long as possible...

I allus admit my mistakes, it's just I rarely make any...

Agreed, although a barely discernable line can look fine on some women. A manly look tends to be a bit off-putting...

[Edbear]

Have to agree here. Most women go out, date, sleep with, have babies with.
Weak, ugly pathetic morons.
These morons breed as much as possible.

That's another puzzle, actually. Are real men is such short supply and so hard to find that women go from one bad relationship to another, endlessly hoping this one will be better..? I personally know several women who can't seem to find the right guy and jump into a relationship too quickly or ignoring the warning signs because they are desperate for a relationship.