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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    I see several of them have initiated high court action trying to keep their status.
    If they can afford to pay a lawyer to take High Court action they can afford to pay tax IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    I have an issue with St John not being fully Government funded.
    Only 93% of their and Wellington Free Ambulance is emergency work. The remainder is Patient Transport etc.

    That aside, I believe their Communication Centres and Essential Service should be Govt Funded.

    To take it a step further I personally believe NZ should have a Singe Call Answering Point, Police, Fire Ambulance, RCC, Maritime, SAR etc. Currently only Police and Fire are co-located. The cost savings and response time around Public safety would be dramatically improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustic101 View Post
    Only 93% of their and Wellington Free Ambulance is emergency work. The remainder is Patient Transport etc.

    That aside, I believe their Communication Centres and Essential Service should be Govt Funded.

    To take it a step further I personally believe NZ should have a Singe Call Answering Point, Police, Fire Ambulance, RCC, Maritime, SAR etc. Currently only Police and Fire are co-located. The cost savings and response time around Public safety would be dramatically improved.
    Only 93%??

    I suppose if you look at the fact they have to bill ACC for some, plus DHBs for others, then private individuals for some, means that simply Govt funding the whole shebang would probably be easier. And probably involve fewer staff who weren't frontline.
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    I agree that they should be fully funded ..... but then .... National would have sold it LOL
    I remember the times of carrying them there buckets around.
    My point wasnt that the baycollection thing is totally wrong .. the point it it cant be doing them any good, one station I was with in a small town, if a local was unable to pay the division covered them from community donations.... the positive in this was it was considered the highest donation/support station in NZ to a point it had more up to date gear than the nearby big city LSU unit (Life Support Unit) My thoughts are if they are hard on the donation giving comunity then they decrease the donations and so the spiral starts. My biggest concern with NZs ambulance service is the singe crewing of the trucks. I was at a MVC recently as first on scene, 1 serious patient and one in deep shock... a single crewed ambulance arrived .... I sort of told him how f'n stupid it was, but I think the reason for that is Political Correctness and the stricter conditions and rules that are imposed on the service, making staffing and service more and more dificult....... I quit ambulance because of the PC garbage that was creaping in.
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    The National Party need to change their name to the revenue gathering party.

    My view is that many government departments, local councils, businesses, charities and organisations are run with very low efficiency and much corruption.

    The very way in which we live is extremely inefficient.

    Mowing lawns, painting exteriors, replacing asphalt roads, servicing ICE (internal combustion engines) and all the rest of the pointless shit could be replaced with much better ways of living.

    The keeping of pets will one day be a thing of the past. Injuries from sport, illness from poor lifestyles, will one day be a thing of the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    The National Party need to change their name to the revenue gathering party.

    My view is that many government departments, local councils, businesses, charities and organisations are run with very low efficiency and much corruption.

    The very way in which we live is extremely inefficient.

    Mowing lawns, painting exteriors, replacing asphalt roads, servicing ICE (internal combustion engines) and all the rest of the pointless shit could be replaced with much better ways of living.

    The keeping of pets will one day be a thing of the past. Injuries from sport, illness from poor lifestyles, will one day be a thing of the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    I see the Charities Commission was been investigating many charities of late, and has recently de-listed quite a few such as Greenpeace, New Zealand Computer Society, Team New Zealand, and The National Council of Woman.
    I'm pleased to see that Greenpeace International Corporation has been delisted.The authorities should also investigate how a multinational like greenpeace can get so many stupid hippies to work for them for no pay.

    I guess I answered my own question

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    Have you ever wondered why there is so much Sanitarium advertising on TV?

    The Sanitarium company is a registered charity that is wholly owned and administered by the Seventh-day Adventist church. Consequently it pays no company taxes (and has a shit-load of cash to spend on TV advertising).

    http://www.sanitarium.com.au/about-u...table-purposes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    Have you ever wondered why there is so much Sanitarium advertising on TV?

    The Sanitarium company is a registered charity that is wholly owned and administered by the Seventh-day Adventist church. Consequently it pays no company taxes (and has a shit-load of cash to spend on TV advertising).

    http://www.sanitarium.com.au/about-u...table-purposes
    If he church is going to own commercial organisations that deliver profits then they should be taxed and have their charitable status removed. If they are happy to get rid of those commcercial profiting generating centres, and they help those less fortunate, then I think they should be able to keep it.

    But now you have made me think of another practice done by many churches - that of investing in land and buildings which are commercially leased out. Fine if it is for church purposes - not fine if being leased to commercial organisations for a profit.

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